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Miguel;4815759; said:
Wow!! I was just thinking about gun related accidents, not the whole sociogeographical comparison between the US and Brasil.

I go there several times a year, and you are right about the normalcy of crime and reaction to it.

Also that guns are mainly illegal, but for an accident to happen a gun does not need to be legal.

And you are wrong in one thing, JD. They have enormous social differences, as they do cultural. You have a lot of countries, and their culture, inside Brasil. Not only countries, but different continents.

If possible, I would even guess that they are more diverse than you guys ( but that is off topic )
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I will admit my demographic is a bit skewed. They are all college student from the big cities. But from what theyve told me, they are amazed at how different people are in the US from each other as compared to Brazil.
 
JD7.62;4810287; said:
With over 35 guns in my house and 20K+ rounds of ammunition!
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planning a small war there JD?
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With all due respect, surely you were aware that your photo and information like this baffles many people?
 
And children die from gun accidents at highly disproportionate rates in states with high gun owenership:

"<P>reschoolers aged 0-4 were 17 times more likely to die from a gun accident in the 4 states with the most guns versus the 4 states with the least guns.

Likewise, school kids aged 5-14 were over 13 times more at risk of accidental firearm death in the states with high gun ownership rates.

The findings indicate that gun availability is associated with accidental death by shooting [4]."

Matt

DavidW;4815841; said:
States With Higher Levels Of Gun Ownership Have Higher Homicide Rates

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/01/070111181527.htm
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dogofwar;4815863; said:
The findings indicate that gun availability is associated with accidental death by shooting [4]."

Matt
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Of course. I believe that no one disputes that.

The issue seems, at least to me, to be the pros and cons of educating the children on having those guns around them, as most in this discussion seem to think ( and I can understand that rationale ) and those, where I include myself, that think that that still is dangerous, because children will be children and, again, because familiarity can lead to disrespect of the rules and corner cuttings....
 
Ok, what's the point of all these silly links and stats. Do you really think you're gonna change JD's views, or anybody for that matter?
 
Could one assume that in the states with the highest rates of gun ownership that rates of (formal and informal) training on safe gun handling, etc. are similar to rates in states with lower rates of gun ownership?

Matt
 
JD7.62;4810287; said:
With over 35 guns in my house and 20K+ rounds of ammunition, my child has grown up and will continue to grow up with them as part of her every day life. No loaded weapons are with in her reach of course. Because they are a part of every day life for her, they are not mysterious and she pays no special attention to them. She knows they are daddy's and will never touch them with out me around (of course she cant as most are in the safe when I'm not).

It is children who are sheltered from guns who want to "play" with them. Ignorance also plays an important part of most gun related accidents. When a child grows up with them and knows proper handling procedures the chances of an accident are greatly reduced. I am proud of her, she knows what most of them are and can tell you what parts are what. We yell at the ignorant media together when they say "clips" instead of the proper term, "magazine." Today we field stripped this AKM and I tried to teach her how the AKM operating system works. haha

I will admit, she is more interested in fishing right now. She LOVES it. The only problem I have is that she gets angry when we use the shrimp for bait instead of cooking it!
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I Agree
 
It is not illegal for a child to hold a gun. It is only illegal if she is in possession of the gun, in this case its all legal since JD owns the gun. Case closed. The apple doesn't fall far from the tree, in this case it never fell off.
 
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