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akskirmish;4815529; said:
:ROFL:
Marines does not make one a "Man"
How does this make one irresponsible? he is educating her. And is an educated gun owner himself.....

My daughter is only 7 now-I take her everytime we go shooting.She even has her own sig mosquito (.22 cal)...Hell there are still younger yet that go hunting....She is more educated on firearm safety than most teens/young adults i come across....

It's all about knowledge in this field.......


I am not going to discuss "responsible or not responsible " gun keeping with You or JD, because there is no doubt in my mind that both of you know about guns and all it entails.

My difference from your approach is just that I see absolutely no advantage in having one so young familiar with weapons.

As I said already, familiarity breeds disrespect, imho. And I would not be surprised if more accidents with kids happen out of that "familiarity" or, on the contrary, from ignorance and wanting to play with what they do not know....
 
akskirmish;4815529; said:
:ROFL:
Marines does not make one a "Man"
How does this make one irresponsible? he is educating her. And is an educated gun owner himself.....

My daughter is only 7 now-I take her everytime we go shooting.She even has her own sig mosquito (.22 cal)...Hell there are still younger yet that go hunting....She is more educated on firearm safety than most teens/young adults i come across....

It's all about knowledge in this field.......

I believe the point people are trying to make is that at age 3 there is no need for this knowledge. I'm sure as a father you know that a 7 year old is vastly more intelligent than a 3 year old.

I personally have no problem with it, since its just a picture and some lessons - it is not as if the kid is firing the gun as a toddler... but I can see where people would be concerned.
 
Red Devil;4815562; said:
I never said to not "educate".............. and teach your children... But to put a photo of your child on MFK holding a AK47 does not make you a man.. it makes you look like an irresponcible father... and believe me ...Marines do make the man... i will not comment anymore... enough is said.. and i could debate this all day... said and done!

Who said anything about making himself a "man"? You are the only onedrwaing this conclusion. By the way, you also said you were done debating in post #35.
 
dogofwar;4815576;4815576 said:
Who said that I don't believe that motor vehicle injuries aren't a big problem?

Matt
You did, by ignoring the facts and circling back to comparing it to other countries. Who cares about other countries. In other countries they like to eat dogs and have tea parties in the middle of the day. What's your point?
 
The problem is that in a kid this young(boys esp), they are NOT emotionally mature for guns...They might hit someone when they are angry...but if they know how to get to guns, they might just shoot someone without fully realizing the real consequences of their actions.
 
The firearm was unloaded, what could happen?

You love dogs right? Dobes to be exact? Me too, we are really considering a Doberman or GSD as our first family pet. However, unlike a loaded weapon around a child a large dog can do much more damage to that child, even if you think its safe. A dog, while completely harmless 99.9% of the time can act out. A gun is an inanimate object. Its IMPOSSIBLE for an unloaded weapon to hurt any one on its own. But, like with guns or any other potentially dangerous thing, living or not, we as parents must do everything possible to ensure our childrens safety. For example, though I am sure your dogs are as sweet as could be, I would feel uncomfortable with my child being around your dogs, just as you may be of your child around an unloaded piece of 9lb metal and wood. I would never bash your opinion on the safety of your large and powerful dogs even if they can act on their own. I would appreciate it if you did not sling personal attacks at me because of my the way my household operates. You are a mod, a very sweet one at that so I think we are all a little surprised you stooped to that level of, well...maturity.
 
Well I can't really comment anymore. All my posts are being deleted/edited by those in red, when I broke no rules *sigh*
 
My point is: Why are we (the US) an outlier (vs. other industrialized nations) when it comes to gun deaths, accidents, etc., including with regard to kids?

Are we an outlier (or an outlier to such an extent) with regard to rates of motor vehicle injuries (especially with kids)?

Matt


jcardona1;4815598; said:
You did, by ignoring the facts and circling back to comparing it to other countries. Who cares about other countries. In other countries they like to eat dogs and have tea parties in the middle of the day. What's your point?
 
jcardona1;4815624; said:
Well I can't really comment anymore. All my posts are being deleted/edited by those in red, when I broke no rules *sigh*


Now you are being childish, Jose.

I did some clean up, and explained it to you! - so that this discussion can flow.

Of course you can comment:)
 
In case you all have missed the several times Ive said, she has ZERO access to weapons. If, the off chance she can figure out how to grab a step ladder and get the few guns that are out of sight (she doesnt know they are there so in order for her to get them she would 1st have to find out they are there some how and then get a step ladder which she is too small to get anyway). Then she would have to physically load the mag into the weapon and then charge the weapon. She doesnt know how to charge any of my weapons and if she did, she simply does not have the strength to do it any how. She probably wouldnt have the strength until she is at least 10 any how.

So, in summary, my child has zero access to weapons on her own. It will be like that until she is at least 16. After all if you are mature enough to do something as dangerous and deadly as operate a 3,000 pound piece of machinery her maturity level will be high enough to know how to operate a weapon if needed. And before yall get all mad that a 16 year old shouldnt have a gun, let me say this, that is 12 years away! MANY things can change in the next twelve years and my wife and I as her parents will make that decision when the time comes.

Please think with logic and facts instead of emotional knee jerk reactions.
 
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