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jimk said:
It is true that most Americans would not want the jobs that illegal immigrants perform. Some of this is due to the fact that illegals do not demand benefits or pay taxes, either form themselves or their employer. A legal employee for the same job would have to be paid much more, making the legal person less desirable. Illegals do place a burden on the economy. They are almost all uninsured. This means free medical care for them and their families. It also means free breakfast and lunch for their children at school, funded by taxpayers. In addition, they do not pay car insurance. Anytime there is an accident involving an illegal the money is coming from somewhere else(the taxpayer). Socially, they place a demand on the government. In most places, the government and other institutions provides Spanish speakers, forms printed in Spanish, and police who speak Spanish. In some places, schools are taught in Spanish and the Mexican flag flies above the American.

I am not sure how I feel about illegals, but just to say they take our undesirable jobs does not tell the whole story. I know I am always bitter when I see the taxes taken from my check and it does not make me happy to know that people are using American services and not contributing their part. I think that if you went to Mexico without a passport or license and demanded all the benefits that illegals receive here, you would find that your rights are almost none.
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SEND THEM BACK!!

ALL OF THEM!!
 
WOW....I really did not think this thread would get this crazy. I just wanted to share a great quote.....:(


Jen ;)

(What would have happened if we acted like this when the immagrants were coming over by the boat load to New York in the eary 1900's?)
 
Filthy Sanchez said:
Hmmmm..First off I want to know when it became a Mexican issue? I have friends who are from other countries who came here. Guatamala, El Salvadore, China, Taiwan, Palestien, Philipines, and Iran just to name a few. As far as the border with Mexico goes, according to the treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo (which ended the Mexican/American War) the border was to remain open to people. The USA changed (or renigged) that years later.
Why look to other countries for answers to this so called "problem" when America has welcomed immigrants better than any country before os since. Most immagrants in European countries aren't welcome into the fabric of the country like they are here, and have become agitated, and angered by such treatment. There fore not feeling any allegiance to the country they live in.
As far as obeying laws in the USA, I agree anyone who becomes a citizen should do so. There are no rights given by the US government to anyone. The United States was founded on the principle that rights are endowed to all man kind (regardless of where they were born), the US belief is that the government is there to protect those rights. I.E. it is not the governments place to endow rights, only to protect those bestowed upon us by our creator (what ever you believe that creator to be).
As for jobs no I will not pick lettuce, and if we crack down on immagrant workers the fast food industry will take a huge hit. Maybe even increase wages for American workers and pass the increase on to you, translation $5.00 - $10.00 Whoppers and Big Macs.
If they wave Mexican flags to symbolize heritage I have no problem with it, if however war were declared between Mexico and the USA I'd expected them to grab a gun and stand a post! It's like Carlos Mencia says "If we go to war with Mexico I'm killing Mexicans." "My dad says Mexico is better than the USA, I say then go back." As I would expect anyone who comes to the US for the protection of their freedom to do.
I think this is such a big issue because most of the new immagrants to the US aren't WASPS. The same fear came about when the Irish potato famin hit and the Irish migrated here in large numbers, they were taking all the jobs, working for less than us Americans. Again it happened when the Chinese came over in large numbers.
As far as migrant workers go, those who retain Mexican citizenship and have no interest in becoming Americans, it's different. There should be something done to allow them to come up work then go home etc. Any law here they should adhere to of course.
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I agree with you Sanchez.....I never thought this thread would become this heated....and about the mexican workers. Its not all about them....its also about everyone else that comes over illegaly.

Jen ;)
 
rottbo said:
i knwo i am sorry to derail your thread jen i was just asking if anyone heard that because i know some illegals and they told me that


once again i am all for mexican workers as long as their legal and pay taxes
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I know you were not meaning too. But it just made me mad when I saw "gun them down"
posted on my thread. This is a positive quote, and how the hell it got turned into this is beoynd me.

Jen ;)
 
Here's a note from an immigrant: Me

Illegal is exactly what it means: It's illegal.

My wife and I spent an enormous amount of time, money, nerves and efford for me to become a permanent resident in the USA. I had to go back to Germany (home) for business, and US immigrations wouldn't let me back into the country (USA) during processing, which took 1.5 years.

Why I wanted to live here? My wife is American. And nevertheless, it took the immigration office 1.5 years to approve me. I am still on probation. No, I have no criminal record.

I am not a US citizen (not planning on it, either). I don't have anything to say on how the US and its people handles immigrants. But I can say that this country's mere basis of existence is immigration. If I had anything to say, I'd suggest to simplify the legal process, but don't automatically make illegal immigrants legal. It's a slap into the face of everyone who worked hard to be here legally.

Just my $ 0.02

HarleyK
 
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