killing asian arowanas???

[groovitudedude]

You say "we"; who is the "we" you are talking about?
We meaning fish keepers of a given area.
Making them legal would make the ornamental breeds available to aquarists, and admittedly no one has thus far come up with even one good reason why these special breeds should be forcefully, at gun point, kept out of the tanks of people willing to pay for them.
This argument is terribly flawed. People are willing to pay for cocaine also.
People fight and die for your freedoms every day; several of my very close friends went that route. I am advocating freedom, and you are telling me to move? What America do you live in, exactly? One of the very nice things about America is that, if you don't like something your government does, you change that government. Why not suggest voting?
I have already suggested writing a letter to the governor, president, or whoever. I was the one that said whining to a fish forum is pointless. That's how I suggest changing the government. And keeping endangered species of fish wasn't on the constitution last time I checked. If you want that right, then do something about it.
Telling someone to leave is just asinine, rude, and insulting. I have bled to keep the America that you live in safe for you; try to have a little bit of respect and think before you talk to someone so thoughtlessly. Thanks.
I did not mean to disrespect anything that you or any of our armed forces have done for this country. I have many friends and even family members that are or were members of the marines or other branges of the armed forces. I'm just so tired of people whining about America instead of doing something about it. By all means, write a letter to a person in charge.

 

[sodenoshirayuki]

One of the very nice things about America is that, if you don't like something your government does, you change that government. Why not suggest voting?

I really dont think you're going to get a voting just so a couple hobbyist could get some aros in America.

 

[sodenoshirayuki]

How big exactly do you think Hawaii is?

It's got 6,423 square miles of land total. It's the 43rd largest state in the United States.

The Big Island of Hawaii has 4,038 square miles of land (about two and a half million acres). Only a small fraction of Hawaii is "used as a vacation spot". Parts of Hawaii are suffering from overdevelopment. The vast majority of the interior is still very rural, dominated by produce farms and cattle ranches.

Alright, you proved me wrong about hawaii. But theres still the main point, who the hell is going to give you all the money to start breeding aros? Is Obama going to fund it? I doubt it, hes probably got more to worry about than a couple hobbyist complaining about illegal aros.

 

[pressure_cooker]

in our country we dont wine about Piranha being an illegal fish.. there is some reason why your govt. implemented these laws.. what is the benefit if these fishes were legal once again in your country? dont tell me that your going to breed these fish?

 

[sodenoshirayuki]

in our country we dont wine about Piranha being an illegal fish.. there is some reason why your govt. implemented these laws.. what is the benefit if these fishes were legal once again in your country? dont tell me that your going to breed these fish?

Lol, the problem is, thats EXACTLY what they think they're going to do. Anyways, you guys dont need to whine about piranhas, piranhas are toys compared to asian aros.

 

[pressure_cooker]

Lol, the problem is, thats EXACTLY what they think they're going to do. Anyways, you guys dont need to whine about piranhas, piranhas are toys compared to asian aros.

any fish has good value that depends on the owner, even if its a violent piranha to a elegant asian arowana. the point is if its illegal we comply to the law, if it is legal we are happy with it. we dont wine if it is illegal.

 

[sodenoshirayuki]

any fish has good value that depends on the owner, even if its a violent piranha to a elegant asian arowana. the point is if its illegal we comply to the law, if it is legal we are happy with it. we dont wine if it is illegal.

That works too. Asian Pride

 

[AU_Arowana-RG]

Seriously, all that you do is try to make the situation seem so impossible or stupid to begin with.

In the first place, most farms are run by private individuals. There. Anyone who is Super RICH could probably attempt a farm. Again though, this is only if they start becoming legal. Why would you go to the government in the first place if it is for supplying aquarists tanks with ornamental fish? If it was for primarily reintroduction (As in with some croc farms), then it would be possible to get something.

But that's only if they become legal.

And even then, whilst you may have kept on saying that several aquarists want Asian Aros, you really need to understand that NOT everyone would even want a Silver in the first place, let alone an Asian. Moreso to pay for the prices that they run for.

Thin out everything and you'll see that only a privileged FEW would want these fish.

Again, it's still possible to make farms, legality is another issue, though. An issue that you Americans will have to learn how to solve. And seriously, things only happen when YOU get things done. Figure out a solution or something, do something about the law, and hope for the best is all I could say for now.

To sodenshirayuki: If you think you can keep just about everything in Canada, wait til you see Asia. I heard something that some areas in Canada are illegalising snakeheads, BTW.

 

[pressure_cooker]

Seriously, all that you do is try to make the situation seem so impossible or stupid to begin with.

In the first place, most farms are run by private individuals. There. Anyone who is Super RICH could probably attempt a farm. Again though, this is only if they start becoming legal. Why would you go to the government in the first place if it is for supplying aquarists tanks with ornamental fish? If it was for primarily reintroduction (As in with some croc farms), then it would be possible to get something.

But that's only if they become legal.

And even then, whilst you may have kept on saying that several aquarists want Asian Aros, you really need to understand that NOT everyone would even want a Silver in the first place, let alone an Asian. Moreso to pay for the prices that they run for.

Thin out everything and you'll see that only a privileged FEW would want these fish.

Again, it's still possible to make farms, legality is another issue, though. An issue that you Americans will have to learn how to solve. And seriously, things only happen when YOU get things done. Figure out a solution or something, do something about the law, and hope for the best is all I could say for now.

To sodenshirayuki: If you think you can keep just about everything in Canada, wait til you see Asia. I heard something that some areas in Canada are illegalising snakeheads, BTW.

i heard that there are alot of rich people in philippines and they have loads of asian arowana. how come that they haven't bred anything yet? and there is also a zoo in the U.S. that houses many arowanas? and they haven't produced anything? It is really EASY to set up a farm. BUT. BREEDING THEM IS DIFFERENT. i can even set up a farm, you can set up a farm and even sodenshirayuki can set up a farm. but breeding this fish is something different. and if they want to have an asian arowana so bad they can move to philippines were it is legal to have an asian arowana, and an arowana is going to be an arowana whether it is an asian, au, or sa it is still an arowana..

 

[AU_Arowana-RG]

Simply because they haven't tried yet. Or haven't made anything public yet. Loads? I sincerely doubt most have more than 5. And these are normally kept in separate tanks! In fact, I've known hardly anyone here in the Philippines who have even tried a monster fish community besides King-El and my friend. As for the US zoo, it could possibly be that they simply don't have enough. Seriously, these all sound like random assumptions in the case of quantity of Asian Aros these places/people have.

Again, it is possible and the only thing in the way would be the amount of legal red tape and maintenance costs. Anyone who goes into such ventures should ALWAYS take those into account and that is exactly how the farms (Registered and unregistered) in SEA are able to keep up despite the costs and the supposed "difficulty". And even then, if the person in charge of the breeding facility sees that it's worthwhile, then he shouldn't mind the costs too much because he should've known what he was getting himself into.

Yes, an arowana is an arowana, no matter where it comes from.