monster tank owners worst nitemare!!

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cjfrontlovr;1172916; said:
well this is #2 for me..both were 450g..unfortunately this one was in the house..it destroyed everthing in its path, walls cabinets, you name it..robkob, if your out there, you know who made this aquarium, our freind in georgia..lifetime gaurentee when on his stand..huh i bet he doesn't answer his email!!


i have a 750g in the opposite room..man am i worrieds now! that particular one was made by tenecor so hopefully its structurally sound! back to water clean-up..wanted to share with my mfk freinds!!


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i sincerely feel for you. Our worst nightmare as MFK'ers
 
Danh;1176656; said:
How is it fraud? You don't commit fraud if you give a lifetime guarantee but it breaks in that lifetime. The fraud is when you don't hold your guarantee, which hasn't happened... yet.

There are MANY locally owned fish stores in metro Atlanta. I can give you a list if you'd like.

When he sold his tanks, he promised one thing but delivered another. It was his standard operating procedure and happened to almost everybody, including myself. That's fraud. The written quote he gave me for a 750 was supposed to be built completely with 1.25" material. The tank I got was built with a 1.25" front and back, but the rest was built with 1" and 1/2" material.

As for guarantees, a mod on Reef Central told me about a company he owned called Star Aquariums before PC that also promised lifetime guarantees. Nobody collected on that guarantee after he went out of business either...
 
If a business is incorporated, there is no personal liability for the owners. That is the reason people use incorporation, to protect personal wealth. It would take a court order to remove any personal wealth from the owner, then you have to prove he had "personal"
knowledge of any fraudulent activity.

By the time you got this case to court it would cost you 10 times the amount that the tank would have cost in the beginning. Then it is still an iffy case.

Was the tank that broke apart made with different thickness acrylic than was originally agreed to, and is that thickness noted in a written contract?

Bad situation
 
It's not illegal to take a crap in a box and mark it guaranteed. He can sell you crap that's guaranteed perfectly legally. In this situation, he hasn't done anything fraudulet.. YET. Until someone doesn't uphold the guarantee. Woody owns the same company now. It's the company that's liable right now.
 
Danh;1177124; said:
It's not illegal to take a crap in a box and mark it guaranteed. He can sell you crap that's guaranteed perfectly legally.

TOMMY BOY!!!! Great movie

Sorry about the tank. I hope the insurance company covers it al for you.
 
reverse;1177075; said:
If a business is incorporated, there is no personal liability for the owners.

Incorporating provides a very good layer of personal protection. If your company can not pay a bill (excluding some taxes), assuming you did not personally guarantee it, you are not personally liable. If your company injures a customer, you are not personally liable. If your employee runs a red light in the company vehicle and hurts somebody, you are not personally liable, etc...

If you own the company and you commit fraud, you are personally liable. The corporate shield was never intended to be a personal defense to criminal actions. Fraud is a criminal offense with civil remedies.
 
Danh;1177124; said:
It's not illegal to take a crap in a box and mark it guaranteed. He can sell you crap that's guaranteed perfectly legally...

Agreed
 
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