Occupy Wall Street?

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Have you heard of Occupy Wall Street?

  • Yes

    Votes: 41 78.8%
  • No, not until just now.

    Votes: 11 21.2%

  • Total voters
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Ryan how can one take their fate into their own hands when you have already been predestined to be cattle for the profit of a master? Work is supposed to be dignity but in this nation and in this political and economic climate we can have anything but dignity. All we have is Slavery with an open cage. I agree entirely with Zoohouse in that just like him no matter what I will provide for my family and even friends. I too push myself harder and harder to better myself, my family and my community. I do not want others than my own carrying me. I want to work and I want to have a dignified existence with something even pretending to be dignity and potential. Then the Bankers come in and the corporations and the government Bought by them sucking ever so much more dry.. They are sucking every last bit of dignity one can have all in the name of MAXIMIZED PROFIT. This economic and political system is corrupt as all hell and is an abomination to Dignity of self... Us in the 99% are just cattle and sheep to these fiends they use us and abuse us in every imaginable way to suck the life out of us...And for what? Themselves and their sick profit margin... These con artists have people so stupefied that we can not even see the cages we are in.. Rather we just blame Immigrants, The Blacks, The Homosexuals, The Jews, The "democrats", the "Republicans", The Liberals, The Socialists, the conservatives, The Tea party .... Ad nausem... They divide us to conquer us and to keep our sights off of them the real cause of all misery..

United States is supposed to be a nation where one can as individuals take our fate into our own hands and live in Dignity... That though is just a pipedream these Days as we have all been sold out to the highest bidder..
Well said...well said

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Very true, Richard. I like seeing that there are others who share the sentiment that we should be able to work as hard as possible in order to support ourselves and our families while still keeping our dignity rather than let others pay for us, but you raise the valid point about the major gaps cause by our lovely corrupt system that unfortunately turn that idea into a pipe dream. You'd love to see some of the dirt that I've dug up lately from publicly accessible (but relatively unknown) valid sources on this system; it'd sicken you even more.
 
I live in the city. Been following them since it started a month ago. The protest is still in its beginning faze. This is how things start. Now they have the support if international celebreties. The local resteraunts are bringing food out to them and even the local transit union has joined the crowd. NYPD arrested 1,700 over the past weekend. Last count on active protesters was 3,000. Mayor Bloomberg is very concerned this could end up like London. Their main arguement is if the politicians aren't sayin anything they will. The reason why most people don't know whats goin on is because you're all stuck watching train wreck t.v. and not paying attention to whats happening. And that's just the way they like it.
 
The interesting part is that it is not just a bunch of kids/liberals/hippies partaking in this movement. The last time something like this happened (1970) union construction workers took it upon themselves to take to the streets brutally beating protesters. Now some of the largest labor unions in the country are actively taking part in and helping to organize the protests. Those who think this is just a bunch of fringe radicals are absolutely wrong.

Whether or not this will actually bring about any significant change? Only time will tell...
 
I have been doing a lot of research on 'the system' as well. My focus as of late has been the relationship between banks and governments. The facts are startling once you begin to understand them. I encourage anyone who's interested to investigated the history of fractional reserve banking and the many battles that have ensued within our government over this issue.
Here's a bit of info that I've collected on some of our most outspoken presidents in regards to monetary theory and centralized banking:


"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation then by deflation, the banks and corporations that grow up around them would deprive the people of their property until their children would wake up homeless on the very continent that their fathers conquered"
-Thomas Jefferson*


In 1832 Andrew Jackson ended the 2nd Federal Bank of the United States

"The bold effort the present bank had made to control the government are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it."

By 1835 the National Debt was lower than ever before or since in U.S. history.*
Andrew Jackson survived an assassination attempt on Jan 30, 1835.
At the end of his life he was asked what his greatest accomplishment was.*
He replied, "I killed the bank."


In 1862 Abraham Lincoln refused to take loans from European bankers and instead issued debt free currency called 'greenbacks'

"The government should create, issue and circulate all currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the government and the buying power of consumers... The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only supreme prerogative of government but it's the governments greatest creative opportunity. By adopting these principles the taxpayer will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be the master and become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power."

On April 14, 1865 Abraham Lincoln was assassinated.*


In September of 1881, James Garfield said:
"Whosoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce... And when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top... You will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate"*

On September 19, 1881 James Garfield was assassinated.*


In 1932, during the great depression, Louis McFadden moved to induce charges against the Federal Reserve.*

"We have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks... This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. This is an era of economic misery, and for the conditions that caused that misery, the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks are fully liable.*

After surviving 2 assassination attempts, he was assassinated on Oct 3, 1936.


On June 4, 1963, John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order 11110. This ended the Fed's monopoly on printing U.S. currency and allowed the U.S. Treasury to start issuing debt free money called U.S. notes
On November 22, 1963,*John F. Kennedy was assassinated. Executive Order 11110 was overturned by Linden Johnson and the newly issued U.S. Treasury notes were removed from circulation.*


Hmm, never learned that in history class.*


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Very true, Richard. I like seeing that there are others who share the sentiment that we should be able to work as hard as possible in order to support ourselves and our families while still keeping our dignity rather than let others pay for us, but you raise the valid point about the major gaps cause by our lovely corrupt system that unfortunately turn that idea into a pipe dream. You'd love to see some of the dirt that I've dug up lately from publicly accessible (but relatively unknown) valid sources on this system; it'd sicken you even more.
 
Does anyone else get a kick out of the cries 'CLASS WARFARE THEY WANT THE RICH TO SUFFER?' We already ARE in class warfare you morons, it's called the rich get richer, nothing trickles down in economics, and the warfare is to keep the poor and middle class down and push them further down.

I am sure most people my age were told the same thing when we were kids: you can be anything you want to be! Well, as long as you are lucky and have good connections, as long as you physically look the part the company wants, as long as you look pretty or strong enough, as long as your parents could afford school or you drowned yourself in debt, as long as the chances were open to you and not shut off. But those aside, anyone can be President (as long as you are rich and handsome and able to take kickbacks) and anyone can be an astronaut (as long as you fit every criteria and then some) but....well, everyone can always greet at the Walmart.
 
A lot of unhappy people will come out and protest, a lot people will not know anything other than they are out of a job and unhappy. It just seems the closer you get to the nitty gritty of why things are happening this way, the less people care or want to get involved. The police "brutality" will end up getting all the news time.

i agree.

the 99% has a problem:
how do they separate themselves from the goofballs and how do they make the problems with fractional reserve banking and fiat money interesting enough and simple enough to get on the news? if that's even their goal!

it's very much like the tea party; it started out with people being pissed with the banks and quickly turned into a circus. they need some way to distinguish themselves from these other tag-along protesters. they need uniforms or something, and a spokesperson that can deliver a clear and simple message (the problem and a solution).

mostly, i've been hearing "where they're taking craps" and "corporations are the enemy". although i have heard some (very few) stories about how they're fed up with the banking system on mainstream news.
 
The main stream media paints with a broad brush. If you're looking to them for an accurate portrayal of the dissent in America or elsewhere, I propose that you've been misinformed.
Here's a great video that breaks down the centralized banking system. It's funny, easy to watch and thought provoking. Great for kids and adults alike.
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Share this with as many people as you can.

Another thought: start collecting every personal email address that you can get your hands on and send massive group emails. This is a common marketing ploy used to sell things. Why not use it to sell ideas?
 
I have been doing a lot of research on 'the system' as well. My focus as of late has been the relationship between banks and governments. The facts are startling once you begin to understand them. I encourage anyone who's interested to investigated the history of fractional reserve banking and the many battles that have ensued within our government over this issue.
Here's a bit of info that I've collected on some of our most outspoken presidents in regards to monetary theory and centralized banking:


"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation then by deflation, the banks and corporations that grow up around them would deprive the people of their property until their children would wake up homeless on the very continent that their fathers conquered"
-Thomas Jefferson*


In 1832 Andrew Jackson ended the 2nd Federal Bank of the United States

"The bold effort the present bank had made to control the government are but premonitions of the fate that await the American people should they be deluded into a perpetuation of this institution or the establishment of another like it."

By 1835 the National Debt was lower than ever before or since in U.S. history.*
Andrew Jackson survived an assassination attempt on Jan 30, 1835.
At the end of his life he was asked what his greatest accomplishment was.*
He replied, "I killed the bank."


In 1862 Abraham Lincoln refused to take loans from European bankers and instead issued debt free currency called 'greenbacks'

"The government should create, issue and circulate all currency and credit needed to satisfy the spending power of the government and the buying power of consumers... The privilege of creating and issuing money is not only supreme prerogative of government but it's the governments greatest creative opportunity. By adopting these principles the taxpayer will be saved immense sums of interest. Money will cease to be the master and become the servant of humanity. Democracy will rise superior to the money power."

On April 14, 1865 Abraham Lincoln was assassinated.*


In September of 1881, James Garfield said:
"Whosoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce... And when you realize that the entire system is very easily controlled, one way or another, by a few powerful men at the top... You will not have to be told how periods of inflation and depression originate"*

On September 19, 1881 James Garfield was assassinated.*


In 1932, during the great depression, Louis McFadden moved to induce charges against the Federal Reserve.*

"We have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks... This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States and has practically bankrupted our government. This is an era of economic misery, and for the conditions that caused that misery, the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks are fully liable.*

After surviving 2 assassination attempts, he was assassinated on Oct 3, 1936.


On June 4, 1963, John F. Kennedy signed Executive Order 11110. This ended the Fed's monopoly on printing U.S. currency and allowed the U.S. Treasury to start issuing debt free money called U.S. notes
On November 22, 1963,*John F. Kennedy was assassinated. Executive Order 11110 was overturned by Linden Johnson and the newly issued U.S. Treasury notes were removed from circulation.*


Hmm, never learned that in history class.*

Nice to see someone knowing this...
 
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