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Hello; A lot of assumptions being made here so I will make a few also. Might be the car was left running so the AC would be on for the three kids only one of which was an infant. My assumption is the car was in sight of both parents and why the father was able to react quickly. Might be one of the children is old enough to be trusted not to put the car into gear among other things. Might be the kids in the car was a very safe situation in most respects other than having a criminal decide to step in.

It is fascinating in some respects the conversation has migrated to focus on how bad the parent(s) are. I will keep a focus on the justified end of life for the car jacker/kidnaper. I do get that it is not a smart thing to leave the keys in a car. Nor is it wise to have the car running if you are a distance away. But even so the thief is the one at fault here.

As to what the thief was thinking while being beaten to death, I can not even guess. It would not bother me too much to learn it was sheer terror. I feel fortunate to live in a state where I can actively protect my property and be within the law. I do feel for folks in places where the law expects them to actually retreat while someone steals from their home. I have heard the homeowner is expected to climb out a window to avoid a confrontation. Oh well.
 
skjl47 I usually agree with a lot of what you say but in this case I think you are wrong if you re read the story again. It clearly says in the article "The children, who range in age from 7 months to 5 years, were unhurt." ... So we are talking about three very small VERY young children. The oldest was only 5 year old, that's way too young to be left alone in a car/trusted in a running car. It doesn't matter if the AC was left on or if the car was just outside the building. Children that small should NEVER be left unattended in a vehicle under any circumstances, especially if it is running. So yes, it is it 100% justified that people are saying this is a clear cut case of very poor parenting.
 
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krichardson said:
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No way. I love it here. Just friggin hot all the time. Even when its not hot out its still hot outside lol. Cant escape that humidity man.
 
Steve_C said:
skjl47 I usually agree with a lot of what you say but in this case I think you are wrong if you re read the story again. It clearly says in the article "The children, who range in age from 7 months to 5 years, were unhurt." ... So we are talking about three very small VERY young children. The oldest was only 5 year old, that's way too young to be left alone in a car/trusted in a running car. It doesn't matter if the AC was left on or if the car was just outside the building. Children that small should NEVER be left unattended in a vehicle under any circumstances, especially if it is running. So yes, it is it 100% justified that people are saying this is a clear cut case of very poor parenting.
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Hello; Alright I stand corrected about the age of the children and do concede your point about leaving small children in a running car. I get this part. A friend left his two small children in a running car one cold morning in his driveway. Very isolated so no other people around to bother the car but the daughter pulled it out of gear. (He also never had the habit of setting a parking brake) Car rolled down the hill into a tree. So yes small children left in a running car is a bad idea, but this is not the point I was making.

My most recent point on this subject is about how the conversation has somehow drifted from the car jacker and onto the parents. I find it interesting that the discussion has taken this turn. Fair enough this is the lounge and an off topic thread.
 
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jaws7777 said:
No way. I love it here. Just friggin hot all the time. Even when its not hot out its still hot outside lol. Cant escape that humidity man.
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Oh I know....A few years ago I spent a week in Homestead,which is probably where I will be relocating to in the future and the heat was downright oppressive.It felt like I had extra weight on me as I was out walking around.
I mean it can get pretty humid here in Philly during the summer but it's nothing like down there.
 
Steve_C said:
I forgot you moved to FL recently. I have a buddy that moved from IL down to FL about 30 yrs ago. He loves it down there but says the same thing about the humidity. He says you need to walk around with scuba gear on some days to breath through the humidity lol
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skjl47 said:
Hello; Alright I stand corrected about the age of the children and do concede your point about leaving small children in a running car. I get this part. A friend left his two small children in a running car one cold morning in his driveway. Very isolated so no other people around to bother the car but the daughter pulled it out of gear. (He also never had the habit of setting a parking brake) Car rolled down the hill into a tree. So yes small children left in a running car is a bad idea, but this is not the point I was making.

My most recent point on this subject is about how the conversation has somehow drifted from the car jacker and onto the parents. I find it interesting that the discussion has taken this turn. Fair enough this is the lounge and an off topic thread.
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Im guilty of this. I routinely leave my kids in the car when its in the driveway to run inside and grab something.
 
skjl47 said:
My most recent point on this subject is about how the conversation has somehow drifted from the car jacker and onto the parents. I find it interesting that the discussion has taken this turn. Fair enough this is the lounge and an off topic thread.
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Same thing is going on over on another forum I post on.We have been discussing the incident and most of the focus has been shifted from a man beaten to death in the middle of the street to the poor decision making on the woman's part.
 
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