Peak Oil the end of fishkeeping???

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DeLgAdO said:
our power plants dont run on oil

more like coal and natural gas(methane, propane)

and some powerplants dont use any of this
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how do you think the coal gets moved to the power plants?

everybody who commented is correct in some way. But its a complicated picture. yes, there ARE alternatives. But the infrastructure is not in place nor is anybody moving very fast to get things switched. some day, there will be no more oil... its not a matter of IF, its a matter of WHEN. The problem will not be electricity... it will be transportation and production of any / all manufactured goods from raw materials... those are the two areas that we (the WORLD) is so dependent on oil for.... and that will have devastating effects on ecomomies which as you can imagine can create a lot of changes in the world.

I don't know when it will happen.... maybe 50 years, maybe 500 years but I don't think it will be a smooth, painless processs to "convert" to a world with no (or limited) oil.
 
hewhorunswithscissors said:
how do you think the coal gets moved to the power plants?

everybody who commented is correct in some way. But its a complicated picture. yes, there ARE alternatives. But the infrastructure is not in place nor is anybody moving very fast to get things switched. some day, there will be no more oil... its not a matter of IF, its a matter of WHEN. The problem will not be electricity... it will be transportation and production of any / all manufactured goods from raw materials... those are the two areas that we (the WORLD) is so dependent on oil for.... and that will have devastating effects on ecomomies which as you can imagine can create a lot of changes in the world.

I don't know when it will happen.... maybe 50 years, maybe 500 years but I don't think it will be a smooth, painless processs to "convert" to a world with no (or limited) oil.
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Amen to that. I agree that this has been a stimulating discussion. However, i think a lot of our monster fish keeping brethren far overestimate our ability replace oil in any kind of reasonable time frame. Fishkeeping might not be a priority in an apocalyptic future, but if we dont have the things we love to comfort us, who gives a damn about keeping warm or eating anyway?
 
French people have expensive gas dude
 
Scottfree said:
Tjere are 60 years worht of shale oil, in Colorado......Nuf said, needn't worry....Lets talk about the fishes, or the Rolling Stones....
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Many estimate that shale oil and oil sands will only be worth extracting when oil reaches 200 dollars per barrel. Right now, at 67 per barrel (an exhorbitant price already), it costs more to extract a barrel of oil from oil shale or oil sands than you get from what you extract.

I had this same conversation with a Canadian geologist on a train in southern Peru at the end of February. He considers himself optimistic about peak oil, and even he said that the transition would be "interesting." Hint: when a scientist says something will be "interesting," hold on to your butts...he agreed that millions might die, and that North Americans are ill prepared to handle hardship of this magnitude.

I fervently hope none of us live to see it.
 
I tried the emission free thing...I put dirt in my gas tank but it only caused problems... :ROFL:
 
Hear in the U.K only a few months back in London it was over £1 for litres
. My fish room cost about £700 a year to run on Electricity. I am on a water meter that measures my water consumption. It’s not a cheap hobby and my fish rooms small. But if I wanted cheap I would have a goldfish bowl in the corner of my living room.
 
the main contributor to the deminishing oil reserves is the USA .George Bush's refusal the sign the Keoto agreement and the fact that trhe average US citizen uses 3 times the energy that the average European and 5 times that of the world average
 
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