OMFG......glad its eating.... but wow.... good luck to you... are you still using mela and pima??
Ray very sick...
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Miles;2057583; said:
Would also like to know? Info can help other people down the line
That is some serious damage. Good luck I hope all goes well for you
Looks better i think she'll be fine. I kept a ray in a small tank while getting her back to good health. Just remember to vacuum out all the ray poop daily.
skynoch;2061431; said:
This is a captive bred ray. Its still a youngster as you can see by the size. The ride home was 35mins at max. I have water pump that uses an airtube that i dripped the aquarium water into the container very slowly. The 180 is an established tank with some exotics. Obviously the fungus was lurking around without bothering any other fish. It was just waiting for a victim and it found one. But as of today the ray is still eating and the edges are turning normal brown color. A few critical times it was starting to go into death curl. And i thought it was over. But it pulled out everytime. I dont think a ray, can ever get so close death and pull out like this one. It saw deaths door, no doubt about it. I think if i where to have delayed setting up a hospital tank, even by a few hours later. It would have been a gonner. You could literally see every hour the fungus spreading across the disc. Just destroying all the tissue in its path.
As of today, its under control. There was one major mistake i corrected in the nick of time. But im also sure if i did not do a 50% water change it would have been dead in 3-4 hours. My precription was simple. But the mistake was i added some melafix because i had some around. The volume amount was alot i noticed for 10 gallon water change.
So i 1/2 dosed it which was still alot of volume imo. But i tried it anyways, and immedietly within a few minutes the ray was in great discomfort. So much so that after 20 mins it was going into a deathcurl. And he was very stressed you could see by his heavy breathing and non stop swimming. Even at 1/2 dose u could smell the melafix in the water. And it was just to strong for an open wound i thought. So @ 4am it was either do another waterchange and get the melafix out of there or see my ray dead in a few hours. So i did the water change and within 5-10 mins. The ray finally settled down and relaxed and pulled out of the deathcurl. So my lesson learned is dont use melafix even at 1/2 dose. Perhaps an 1/8 of a dose would be ok. But daily 50% water changes, salt and the 1/2 dose of primafix seems to be working. To be updated...
BraveheartCalif;2062386; said:
How sure are you that it's CB? Never seen anyone breed one of the 'ugly' brown rays.. would like to talk to that fellow.
Did the ray eat the day you brought it home?
How many gallons of water was it transported in?
What is the pH in the 180?
What was the pH of the tank the ray came from?
How long did you drip acclimate for?
...leaning towards ammonia toxicity from ammonia accumulation during transportation and drip technique slowly increasing toxicity...
Miles;2062690; said:
The ray is a leo/motoro hybrid,just a baby, so just over a 1 month + i believe.
Did the ray eat the day you brought it home?
No i just got it and the following day is when the outbreak occured.
How many gallons of water was it transported in?
Not sure how many gallons. But there was plenty
What is the pH in the 180?
Around 7.5
What was the pH of the tank the ray came from?
Its captive so it had around the same ph
How long did you drip acclimate for?
about 35-40 mins...
this ray came from a friend of mine it was in perfect health when it left his hands the pics make it hard to tell what it is
i am glad to see it doing better what ever u did to help keep doing it
this ray has alot of potential good luck
i am glad to see it doing better what ever u did to help keep doing it
this ray has alot of potential good luck
Miles;2062690; said:
x2Rays pooped in the transport container.. The ammonia is acidic and lowered the pH. The drip acclimation brought the pH up slowly and in turn, increased the ammonia toxicity.
If the parameters in the 180g are good, and there is no substrate to cause a possible infection.. the ONLY thing I could think of is ammonia toxicity during transport. You say there was "plenty" of water but stingrays produce insane amounts of Urea and "plenty" of water during transport is, what, 5 gallons or less? Ammonia spike central, combined with the age old mythology of drip acclimation
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5350&page=2
Post #19... Still want that Disclaimer?
why would you need so much water for a transport?
they certainly don't put gallons of water with your ray when you get one shipped.
How far was the trip?
they certainly don't put gallons of water with your ray when you get one shipped.
How far was the trip?
