Sand and young rays.

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andersp90;2449137; said:
When cichlids can clean their fragile gills in it without any trubble, why would it hurt or even kill a ray? :screwy: An animal that is made to live on sand? :screwy:

African Cichlids come from the Rift Lakes

and

Freshwater Stingrays come from the Amazon

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If you watch the videos of rays in the amazon you will notice that the substrate is usually covered with a layer of detritus and organic debris, leaves, etc... silt is very soft, not sharp like the pictures posted on page 1.

African Cichlids have evolved in an unchanged body of water for billions of generations in which they adapted to sifting sharp sands with their gills..

The amazon is so diverse and changes so often and so rapidly, to say that they 'were made to live on sand' would be completely way off base.. Just because they have the ability to burrow themselves does not mean they were made to live on sand.
 
Miles;2449217; said:
African Cichlids come from the Rift Lakes

and

Freshwater Stingrays come from the Amazon

Yes miles, there are lots rocks close to the shore. ;)

The rest of the lake is one big sand box. ;)

And yes, rays can be found where there is sea grass and algee.

What´s the point of these two things?

Stress? My rays dident look stressed on the germans breeders mixed sand bottom. ;)

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andersp90;2449240; said:
Stress? My rays dident look stressed on the germans breeders mixed sand bottom. ;)

Wow your sand sure does look - A MILLION TIMES DIFFERENT - than the sand in question?

Infact - your sand looks EXACTLY like the sand I use for my rays.. it came from a gravel company intended use; play sand and sand blasting.


Heres some pix of the BAD SAND.. notice how the sharpness sparkles on the much finer particles?

FYI the ray in the 2nd pic died.
http://www.monsterfishkeepers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=186873&highlight=sharp+sand+rays
You just told him it was stress and to add salt.. that it's normal. Dead is not normal?

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You two love birds really need to get a room already....lol

j/k - Thanks for keeping the thread going in a nice direction.
 
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