Seachem Prime question

[ercnan]

Per Seachems Website.
Pond Prime : Use 1/8 cup (2 tablespoons) for each 600-700 gallons for removing chlorine or chloramine. To detoxify high concentrations of ammonia or nitrite, use 1/4 to 1/2 cup for each 600 gallons. Sulfur odor is normal. For exceptionally high chloramine concentrations, a double dose may be used safely. To detoxify nitrite in an emergency, up to 5 times normal dose may be used. If temperature is > 30 °C (86 °F) and chlorine or ammonia levels are low, use a half dose.
I'm assuming the smallest (500ml) size.

Regular Prime : Use 1 capful (5 mL) for each 200 L (50 gallons*) of new water. For smaller doses, please note each cap thread is approx. 1 mL). This removes approximately 0.8 mg/L ammonia, 1.2 mg/L chloramine, or 3.3 mg/L chlorine. May be added to aquarium directly, but better if added to new water first. If adding directly to aquarium, base dose on aquarium volume. Sulfur odor is normal. For exceptionally high chloramine concentrations, a double dose may be used safely. To detoxify nitrite in an emergency, up to 5 times normal dose may be used. If temperature is > 30 °C (86 °F) and chlorine or ammonia levels are low, use a half dose.
Again, assuming the smallest size (50ml)

Regular : 500 mL treats 5000 gallons*. More than any other de-chlorinator
No such info for a given size of pond.

 

[CichlidPharmer]

Per Seachems Website.
Pond Prime : Use 1/8 cup (2 tablespoons) for each 600-700 gallons for removing chlorine or chloramine. To detoxify high concentrations of ammonia or nitrite, use 1/4 to 1/2 cup for each 600 gallons. Sulfur odor is normal. For exceptionally high chloramine concentrations, a double dose may be used safely. To detoxify nitrite in an emergency, up to 5 times normal dose may be used. If temperature is > 30 °C (86 °F) and chlorine or ammonia levels are low, use a half dose.
I'm assuming the smallest (500ml) size.

Regular Prime : Use 1 capful (5 mL) for each 200 L (50 gallons*) of new water. For smaller doses, please note each cap thread is approx. 1 mL). This removes approximately 0.8 mg/L ammonia, 1.2 mg/L chloramine, or 3.3 mg/L chlorine. May be added to aquarium directly, but better if added to new water first. If adding directly to aquarium, base dose on aquarium volume. Sulfur odor is normal. For exceptionally high chloramine concentrations, a double dose may be used safely. To detoxify nitrite in an emergency, up to 5 times normal dose may be used. If temperature is > 30 °C (86 °F) and chlorine or ammonia levels are low, use a half dose.
Again, assuming the smallest size (50ml)

Regular : 500 mL treats 5000 gallons*. More than any other de-chlorinator
No such info for a given size of pond.

It's the same concentration. Your blurb does not mean much without understanding how the product works. The product can treat more pond water with the same concentration of the product because in ponds there's enormous amount of surface area in contact with air unlike fish tanks which have limited surface areas. I give up, just pay more ok?

 

[ercnan]

Not Aquasafe. Safe is the actual ingredient in Prime. Both Prime and Safe are manufatured by Seachem.

If you want to spend more for basically the same thing that's your prerogative.

Just asking for clarification.

 

[Lonewolfblue]

It's the same concentration. Your blurb does not mean much without understanding how the product works. The product can treat more pond water with the same concentration of the product because in ponds there's enormous amount of surface area in contact with air unlike fish tanks which have limited surface areas. I give up, just pay more ok?

To make this a little clearer, if you don't treat the water, the chlorine will eventually evaporate out of the water. With ponds having much, much more surface area, this process happens at a much faster rate, thus not needing as high of concentration of dechlor.

 

[ewurm]

Regular Prime: 1 capful for 50 gallons
Pond Prime: 1 capful for 100 gal

 

[Lonewolfblue]

Regular Prime: 1 capful for 50 gallons
Pond Prime: 1 capful for 100 gal

Pond=More surface area

 

[JuanTamad]

To make this a little clearer, if you don't treat the water, the chlorine will eventually evaporate out of the water. With ponds having much, much more surface area, this process happens at a much faster rate, thus not needing as high of concentration of dechlor.

Bingo! We have a winner here....

 

[ercnan]

It's the same concentration. Your blurb does not mean much without understanding how the product works. The product can treat more pond water with the same concentration of the product because in ponds there's enormous amount of surface area in contact with air unlike fish tanks which have limited surface areas. I give up, just pay more ok?

My "blurb" was a simple copy/paste directly from the man. web site so some others here for some info.
It was by no means meant to be construed that one one was/is "better" than the other. I simply stated the facts as presented by the folks that make it.
I will continue to "spend more money" on the product of my choosing, whether you agree or not.
Buy your choice, I'm not telling you different.
Mix your powder, I'm not telling you different.
As far as I know, The products in question are to be used for a given AMOUNT of water to remove a given AMOUNT of chemicals.
Nowhere have I seen /heard of "surface area" coming into play.
100g's of water, is 100g's of water, no matter the containment method.
More surface area means more gas exchange yes, but the product in question only deals with removing chemicals in the water, not the vapor.
More surface area means faster dissipation yes, but that was not the original issue of the post.

 

[ewurm]

I might email them, but I am pretty sure that the company intends to eliminate chlorine, not let it gas off via the surface. Also, the nitrite detox numbers correspond with the dosage provided.

 

[ercnan]

I might email them, but I am pretty sure that the company intends to eliminate chlorine, not let it gas off via the surface. Also, the nitrite detox numbers correspond with the dosage provided.

I agree, if we just let it "gas off, we don't need anything more than a container big enough for change water, an air pump and stone, and a day or 2, or 3 to let it dissipate on it's own.