Somethings wrong with my water? (Big fish kill)

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you could try buying 40 gallons of R/O water. Just for my own sanity, I would try that. Add the R/O water, let it cycle with bacteria, get some inexpensive fish and give it a go. This would drive me nuts.
 
Oh, and as for oil, I would say that is pretty deadly in water. AND, if you think dish soap is safe, sorry to tell you it is really toxic to humans, let alone fish.
Dish soap seems harmless as we use it everyday, but ingesting it usually ends in a trip to the ER for stomach pumping. On top of that, it sticks to our stomach lining and "fights" the acid in our stomachs.
 
kumdoalan;1606306; said:
-, and the water tests out great!....



The lady at the store tested the water for me and she could not find any hint of a water problem......

There is nothing wrong with the water that normal aquarium water tests can show me.

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I dont think that most LFS test for chlorine or chloramine. most standard aquarium test kits dont. So it sounds like your water company may have added or increased the amount of chlorine or chloramines. Have you made contact w/ them yet?
 
kumdoalan;1606676; said:
By the way, I like the untestable "chloramine" idea because if true, that means I was not all that much to blame...LOL

Add "prime" made by Seachem this will remove any chloramine. Do you treat your tap water with any type of conditioner at all?
 
crashinc25;1606686; said:
AND, if you think dish soap is safe, sorry to tell you .
Although i dont really remember, I cant believe I used dish soap to clean the tank.
I remember the tank had sat for a few months empty and that I was concerned about there being cat and dog hair inside it. I remember washing it down, I dont remember any soap.

But the point is that even if I had used tons of soap, that would not have harmed the fish in the other tank!

The 100gal tank was running just fine. I just knew it was due for a water change so as I had the gear out in the room anyway I went ahead and sucked out 25% and ran normal tap water back in just like I have done for 20 years with that tank.
 
Bderick67;1606740; said:
Add "prime" made by Seachem this will remove any chloramine. Do you treat your tap water with any type of conditioner at all?
"conditioner"?
No, not really for a 25% water change.
I only have gold fish....just normal "feeder" goldfish that grow to be about 6 or 7 inches long.

I use Walmart brand water conditioners when I break down and clean my 140gal and the 100gal tanks, but I have not done that for 2 years.

I was only doing a water change of 25%.....I have never had a problem before.

And the fact that I ended up killing all the fish in two tanks doing what i have always done in the past makes me believe that something was VERY different this time with the water........

You can bet that when I start to fill my indoor pond in a few weeks that I will have some of the ""prime" made by Seachem " to be sure!
(lets hope it is the answer)
 
islander671;1606699; said:
So it sounds like your water company may have added or increased the amount of chlorine or chloramines. Have you made contact w/ them yet?

Because I have never had a problem with this same water for the last 20 years, and the study of aquarium water is not really one of my past interests, I did not know about this "chloramines" until Dr joe listed it for me to check....

He says its a known fish killer, and fits into the story of my 2-tanks-of-death, so because there is no test for it, I better just plan my next water changes with the idea that there could be chloramines, and take steps to fix the situation.

if a "Prime" type conditioner is the answer, then it's Prime from now on....

Im not sure about talking to the tap water people....not sure what I would ask.
However the owner of the Local Fish Store was very interested in my water, asked for some samples, and took down my address, (I live on a farm) so to have a record if other cases of die-offs appear.

I got 8 new goldfish tonight and they are still alive 10 hours later....so, perhaps the pet store owner was right in suggesting the things they sold me to try.

All i can say is....IF the answer is that no matter how many years I have done water changes, that right now my tap water is different, and that the answer is to add "Prime" to the water, than THANK GAUD, I learned this before I filled my large indoor pond, thank Gaud you guys pointed me in the dirrection of more use of conditioners...Because in my indoor pond I will move my big Koi and they are like members of my family with names and everything....

The Kids would never forgive me......
 
In my old hometown they switched from chlorine to chloramine without telling anybody. This resulted in tons of fish dying, such as the hundred dollar koi that lived at one of the banks (they were on a continuous water change system). There were some lawsuits needless to say.

I hope you have found the solution, I hate mysteriously dying fish.
 
congofeet;1606861; said:
In my old hometown they switched from chlorine to chloramine without telling anybody. .

All of what I was doing was just to get everything ready for the day I fill my new indoor pond up with water and get my new filter going.

I know that I will have a few more bugs to work out of the system before everything is running right, but for the life of me I did not see "trouble with the water' in my future.

I did everything the same way as I have done for years and years...

But it is the time of the year when the snow melts and water is pooled up everywhere you look, that I can believe that the Water People who pump the well water to my farm have had to change the mix of things they add to the tap water to make it safe to drink.
 
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