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So is it safe to assume that those special considerations are taken in affect, only for veterans???
 
dirtyblacksocks;2207541; said:
If that guys daughter has any respect for him she won't be having this boyfriend over to her house right now - while her dad is in jail because of her irresponsible actions.
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If she had any respect to start with, this story wouldn't exist.

dirtyblacksocks;2207541; said:
While a pipe to the skull may not have been the most rationale action - at 4 in the morning when you're still fuzzy from waking up things take a different turn.
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He had ample time to wake himself enough to go to the garage and search for a pipe ;)

dirtyblacksocks;2207541; said:
Like I said, there is a lot of stuff this article didn't bother going into. Nobody - including myself - should try to make assumptions about the history behind this kid, his girlfriend, and her father. I sincerely doubt most of us would have calmly said "OK, time to leave" in this situation, though. Had it been our daughter.
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True, I would like to see the police report and go to the hearing.

dirtyblacksocks;2207541; said:
EDIT: As far as what the man was charged with - it's how our system works. You have to abide by the rules. But that still doesn't make the dad wrong for what he did. Had the judge just let him walk this case would be cited for future issue's with different circumstances. I still think he did the right thing.
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But you are assuming that he thought his daughter was in trouble. He was in the wrong if he just simply caught his daughter having sex.(which is what I'm assuming happened) Would this story be different if it were 4pm and the father came home from work early?
 
Yes. It's only taken into consideration with Veteran's. Primarily Vietnam veteran's from my understanding, but from searching for the law it applies to any combat vets.

I used a poor choice of words in being charged - you will be charged for the crime of murder, but combat veterans are sentenced to rehabilitation rather than prison.
 
Still..Saying it that way is the same as saying..."If you fight in a war, you are allowed to murder".....Come on...All rationality would lead me to believe it would be a case by case scenario...The same with this 300lbs dad busting the little 120lbs kid in the head......Acording to the law and judgment, there is no debate here...
 
dirtyblacksocks;2207541; said:
Haha if a grown adult put stitches in my son's head I'd probably be serving a life sentence.

I I still think he did the right thing.
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just for the sake of argument, Dirtyblacksocks, how do you resolve the inconsistency
between your first sentence and your last.

Either the father was wrong, and you ( and me ) as the kids father entitled to "rage ", or the father did right.

Or do you view things from where you stand, only?:)
 
I typed a bit but then I got a headache from this mess so I deleted it all and re-typed.
1, I blame parents for not educating the kids in manners of respect especially the boy for not having guts to confront the girl's family like a gentleman.
2, the father hitting a young boy with a pipe does not make him any tougher or more manly.
We'll let the people of United States decide what he is charged.
 
bigspizz;2207630; said:
Still..Saying it that way is the same as saying..."If you fight in a war, you are allowed to murder".....Come on...All rationality would lead me to believe it would be a case by case scenario...The same with this 300lbs dad busting the little 120lbs kid in the head......Acording to the law and judgment, there is no debate here...
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It is done on a case by case basis. The original idea of PTSD being an excuse for murder arose when Veteran's were returning from Vietnam and killing people who tried to wake them up, amoung other triggers.

If you Google about it you'll find a good amount of stuff on it, having served in combat does not give you the excuse to kill people. Having PTSD does entitle you to a defense as to why you might have killed some one, though.
 
dirtyblacksocks;2207739; said:
If you Google about it you'll find a good amount of stuff on it, having served in combat does not give you the excuse to kill people. Having PTSD does entitle you to a defense as to why you might have killed some one, though.
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That is a fact. And it is a very strong exculpatory argument in the defense of such a case.
 
Miguel;2207643; said:
just for the sake of argument, Dirtyblacksocks, how do you resolve the inconsistency
between your first sentence and your last.

Either the father was wrong, and you ( and me ) as the kids father entitled to "rage ", or the father did right.

Or do you view things from where you stand, only?:)
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My rationale is that there are three things important to the core of society as I see it, in this order:
1. God/faith
2. Family/friends
3. Laws/order

Regardless of breaking the law or not - I do what it takes to protect my beliefs and my family. I also understand that in doing so I face the consequences beset by the society I choose to be a part of.

In that sense, I think the father was in the right for knocking the kid upside the head. But had it been my son who got knocked upside the head I would have returned the favor. It all revolves around sticking up for your family. As irrational as that may seem, it's a code of conduct that's served me well for the most part.

It is your duty as a father to protect your children.
 
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