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It can be expected to see some dead natives after a cold spell It helps keep the populations in check, and get rid of the week. Plus I doubt the number of dead gar would even put a dent in there population.
 
k0y0te;3790155; said:
over the weekend took a trip to lake monroe (a few block from me) saw several cats, spec and gars belly up. not a pretty sigh :(
I'm going there tomorrow (today after I drag myself out of bed). My fishing hole off of Lake Emma Rd hasn't had a single floater. The fish there aren't biting like they were but the population at least wasn't wiped out. (I caught a blue talapia today.)

Louie;3790950; said:
Where is lake monroe ? I am surprised that even in a lake which I imagine has depth even natives got hit.

sorry to hear that
Lake Monroe is north of Orlando. The St. Johns River runs through it. It is about three miles wide and roughly six miles long. It has manatees, gators, and sting rays like there's no tomorrow.
 
No worries here about the PB population. Too many deep water lakes all around for them to weather the likes of the recent cold snap. There was an even colder front that swept South Florida in the 80s and the PB population got even more established after it.:)

Unfortunately, most canals are not deep enough to hold water that can remain in the survival zone of any tropical cichlid when something like the cold front during the past week sweeps through.

Did not see a single dead fish anywhere around our lake.:D
 
CichlidPharmer;3792944; said:
No worries here about the PB population. Too many deep water lakes all around for them to weather the likes of the recent cold snap. There was an even colder front that swept South Florida in the 80s and the PB population got even more established after it.:)

Unfortunately, most canals are not deep enough to hold water that can remain in the survival zone of any tropical cichlid when something like the cold front during the past week sweeps through.

Did not see a single dead fish anywhere around our lake.:D
As I said the cold front will weed out the weak. And then the strong will breed next spring resulting in better off spring.
 
CichlidPharmer;3792944; said:
No worries here about the PB population. Too many deep water lakes all around for them to weather the likes of the recent cold snap. There was an even colder front that swept South Florida in the 80s and the PB population got even more established after it.:)

Unfortunately, most canals are not deep enough to hold water that can remain in the survival zone of any tropical cichlid when something like the cold front during the past week sweeps through.

Did not see a single dead fish anywhere around our lake.:D


Okay thanks didnt know there was ever such a cold and long snap. It killed off lots of the green anoles and house geckoes that live around the house.
Thus assumed it killed off most PB.

In fact I went from a garage wall at night lit by a flourescent light that had easily 12 geckoes who would chase each other for insect eating positions to only 2 (last night was warm and they were eating) .
 
CHOMPERS;3792515; said:
I'm going there tomorrow (today after I drag myself out of bed). My fishing hole off of Lake Emma Rd hasn't had a single floater. The fish there aren't biting like they were but the population at least wasn't wiped out. (I caught a blue talapia today.)


Lake Monroe is north of Orlando. The St. Johns River runs through it. It is about three miles wide and roughly six miles long. It has manatees, gators, and sting rays like there's no tomorrow.


I had no idea any fresh water stingrays in Florida. You ever catch one?
 
Yep, three so far in the St. Johns. In the tidal lagoons, they are pretty easy. It took a while to figure out how though. After that, they were easy to catch. They prefer live food over dead and you have to fish it off the bottom. You need a small shot weight close to the hook to keep your minnow close to the bottom. When the minnow gets tired of dragging the weight, he'll settle down on the bottom so the ray can get him.
 
MultispeciesTamer;3792425; said:
It can be expected to see some dead natives after a cold spell It helps keep the populations in check, and get rid of the week. Plus I doubt the number of dead gar would even put a dent in there population.

I do not think you realize how cold it got in Florida and how it affected the fish. They have CLOSED snook, tarpon and bonefish season because of the fish kills. THAT is not just killing the weak (not week).


http://www.news-press.com/article/20100119/ENT13/1190346/1075/Tarpon--snook-off-fishing-menu
 
Yea dead fish all over here, I went fishing twice after the cold spell and all I've gotten was one LMB, I've seen crap loads of dead mayans and tilapia, I rescued a jag that was close to death, I've seen 3 dead pbass (I havent seen any alive but I'm hoping theyre alright) and last night I even saw some dead bullhead and plecos. Haven't seen any dead gar. This cold spell will really hurt fishing for a while I feel, these non natives have become part of our ecosystem, now bass will be limited to eating bream and mosquito fish, it will be hard to catch large bass for a while now. non natives arent a real problem here, they don't cause any harm. I'm hoping that enough have survived to repopulate but with the mayans and tilapia its going to be hard. The only positive I can see is that warmouth should have less competition but bass will be looking for food and will eat more so I think the cold sell was a lose lose :(
 
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