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CHOMPERS;3801665; said:
Yep, three so far in the St. Johns. In the tidal lagoons, they are pretty easy. It took a while to figure out how though. After that, they were easy to catch. They prefer live food over dead and you have to fish it off the bottom. You need a small shot weight close to the hook to keep your minnow close to the bottom. When the minnow gets tired of dragging the weight, he'll settle down on the bottom so the ray can get him.


Wow that is neat. I dont know anything about them. Are they native?



You were saying you didnt see much die off by you which is great. Still nothing?

I am glad lots areas where fish lived on as by me it was terrible.
 
fhawk362;3802102; said:
Yea dead fish all over here, I went fishing twice after the cold spell and all I've gotten was one LMB, I've seen crap loads of dead mayans and tilapia, I rescued a jag that was close to death, I've seen 3 dead pbass (I havent seen any alive but I'm hoping theyre alright) and last night I even saw some dead bullhead and plecos. Haven't seen any dead gar. This cold spell will really hurt fishing for a while I feel, these non natives have become part of our ecosystem, now bass will be limited to eating bream and mosquito fish, it will be hard to catch large bass for a while now. non natives arent a real problem here, they don't cause any harm. I'm hoping that enough have survived to repopulate but with the mayans and tilapia its going to be hard. The only positive I can see is that warmouth should have less competition but bass will be looking for food and will eat more so I think the cold sell was a lose lose :(

"I'm hoping that enough have survived to repopulate but with the mayans and tilapia its going to be hard"

I agree without cichlids the natives will truly suffer because state added PB eat mostly cichlids and LMB certainly eat them. .

Though PB took a big hit but everything eat Miyan and Talipia young . Those 2 cichlids alone esp Mayans feed the PB.

Grass carp in area all lived as did my backyard "pond" (60 gallon pvc) pair of dollar sunfish and several rosy reds. Go figure.
 
MultispeciesTamer;3803533; said:
Yea I did mean weak, well how ever cold it got iam sure ive seen colder as I am from MI. The fish can live and will.

Not many walleyes and pike down in Florida, pretty bad comparison.
 
Went along one of my old fishing holes near work. In two spots in a half miles stretch atleast 30 - 40 dead Peacock Bass alone. Tons of Tilapia, Plecos, Oscars, mayans, Acara I think and Iguanas. The only fish that I can see are the natives in the water.
 
Also forgot the Salvini were dead too. This time it was all size fish huge 20+ inch plecos and pbass close to that size to small salvini and mayans. I would say in these 2 stretch of canals are exotic free forthe moment. This one canal is very shallow but connects to a deep canal. As the water warms and if any of these fish have survived they will reappear in these very warm canals.
 
Robbwilder;3805889; said:
Went along one of my old fishing holes near work. In two spots in a half miles stretch atleast 30 - 40 dead Peacock Bass alone. Tons of Tilapia, Plecos, Oscars, mayans, Acara I think and Iguanas. The only fish that I can see are the natives in the water.


I have seen min 30 dead PB through out the area but on bottom. They look like sunken submarines. Actually I did see floaters by Golf course pond .

I didnt walk canal today during lunch so not sure if any floating but from the window dont see it and they would stick out.

Depressing isnt it? I rather not even look anymore. I never caught a pleco and only saw them once in awhile not often yet it seemed lots of them at one time.

Lots PB travel and hang out by Tamiami canal if FWC doesnt for once enforce fishing regs and as usual the remaining live ones are caught and kept (even 4 inch one's are kept using cast nets )than the remaining adults will be severly depleted worse than they are now.

I emailed FWC (4th email in 2 yrs-falls on deaf ears)
 
Robbwilder;3805902; said:
Also forgot the Salvini were dead too. This time it was all size fish huge 20+ inch plecos and pbass close to that size to small salvini and mayans. I would say in these 2 stretch of canals are exotic free forthe moment. This one canal is very shallow but connects to a deep canal. As the water warms and if any of these fish have survived they will reappear in these very warm canals.


Oh sorry to hear about Salvini as by you one of few places they are found. I suspected they would get hit bad .
By here its even natives are dead mostly bull heads,small gars .

I only see mosquito fish in canal and few mayans but for most part barren.
 
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