Kogo;3806311; said:
Where are you collecting and how??? Ive done the dipnetting last year and Go Sals and small mayans and native mollies.
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Where are you collecting and how??? Ive done the dipnetting last year and Go Sals and small mayans and native mollies.
I get around to alot of places as do others in the club. There is no one place to catch anything. But, I do most of my colecting in Broward.
fhawk362;3806499; said:
They dont care about freshwater, i called their fish kill hotline to mention the tilapia, mayan, bullhead, and other fish I noticed dead and they asked if I saw any dead snook and when i replied no they said, "have a good day". Careless a-holes. sometimes I'm all for FWC other times i can't stand them.[/QUOTE]
I know that place I told you about has lots of illegal fishing as even the smallest bass are caught and kept many times with cast nets and they couldnt care less.
I never mentioned non natives to them as than I dont have a case but have seen lots of bass and 2 protected grass carp caught (net) and kept.
The place has(had) so much that it didnt make a dent but doubt thats still the case but they still wont act.
You get back frtom them a standard "form" type reply but they never send anyone .
Robbwilder;3806731; said:
When you dipnet. Your able to walk in the canal, you dont sink in that mud?
I would be to nervous to try that as you never know what could be there. Though it does sound interesting.
reverse;3806527; said:That is a tarpon you are seeing at the surface. Snook are a major economy on their own, closing the snook season for multiple years will have a huge impact on the locals.
But we got no snook in Michigan............it get's cold there
Okay thanks. Yes I hear the word snook a lot around fishermen and my father in laws friends who mostly fish salt but also snook and tarpon. I act like I know but have no idea.
Probably never saw a snook . Going to look them up.
A few dead snook is nothing compared to a massive musky die of in lake St. Claire a few years ago but you know what its back and better then ever. So when you have 1000+ dead snook floating around then you can say you had a massive die off. But if only a few are floating here and there stop worring.reverse;3806252; said:ok
again whats your point?reverse;3806527; said:That is a tarpon you are seeing at the surface. Snook are a major economy on their own, closing the snook season for multiple years will have a huge impact on the locals.
But we got no snook in Michigan............it get's cold there
Kogo;3806778; said:
What do you collect, what type of permits/licenses do you have or need, if any?
Louie;3807060; said:
I know that place I told you about has lots of illegal fishing as even the smallest bass are caught and kept many times with cast nets and they couldnt care less.
I never mentioned non natives to them as than I dont have a case but have seen lots of bass and 2 protected grass carp caught (net) and kept.
The place has(had) so much that it didnt make a dent but doubt thats still the case but they still wont act.
You get back frtom them a standard "form" type reply but they never send anyone .[/QUOTE]
Its this mind set that these fish are harmless that has got everything so screwed up. Oh these Asian carp are harmless lets put them in our pond to keep the weeds down. Know years down the road these carp are on the verge of making it into lake MI. No matter if you can see it or not these nonnative fish are adapting and harming the ecosystem filling the area of other species that belong there. After all if these nonnative species were meant to be there then they would have evolved there. But instead humans have been moving species around for our own gain and not for the environment/nature. Now Michigan is another state where dumb stocking and messing around were done. Salmon should have never been stocked in the great lakes and the channel (Saint Lawrence seaway) that was dug to the Atlantic ocean never should have been dug. But whats been done is done. We can only look to the future to stop events like this from occurring. I for see these Asian carp making it into the great lake and devastating the salmon fisheries. Then the DNRs around the lakes will stock stripped bass to help control and eat them and promote a new fisherie.
MultispeciesTamer;3807129; said:
I have never seen a snook but if the state of Florida closed snook fishing and it was on news than I suspect it was massive die off as the FWC isnt known for protecting anything nor managing much.
Lots come here for fishing its loss revenue for many so it has to be 1000+ or whatever it was that it requires closing snook season. It wasnt just a few. One place alone was 400 snook.
It was a freak cold spell that lasted long by Florida standards hit record lows and caused massive die offs of not just cichlids (my friends lol) but brutal on the natives.
http://www.miamiherald.com/573/story/1432724.html
"day after day, dead fish. Floating in the marina at Flamingo in Everglades National Park alone he counted more than 400 snook and 400 tarpon.
``I was so shook up, I couldn't sleep,'' said Frezza, an ecologist for Audubon of Florida and an expert flats fisherman. ``Millions and millions of pilchards, threadfin herring, mullet. Ladyfish took it really bad. Whitewater Bay is just a graveyard.''
