What countries are Asian Arowanas still Illegal

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i say we import 100 arowanas and start an outdoor breeding program like they have in asia. make it high security and continue the ban on importation. this way we have a good breeding stock of aros in the u.s.a and then we have aros in the u.s.a!
 
nubz;3411540; said:
i say we import 100 arowanas and start an outdoor breeding program like they have in asia. make it high security and continue the ban on importation. this way we have a good breeding stock of aros in the u.s.a and then we have aros in the u.s.a!

This would be ideal but would probably be impossible. From what I have read asian arowana are very difficult to breed. They have only been able to breed significant numbers of them in asia. Any other accounts have been one offs. I'm pretty sure they need very specific conditions to breed successfully and only the mud pools in asia can provide that.
 
TimTheBadass;3411537; said:
If asian arowana were made legal in the usa it would be disastrous for arowana keepers over the world. Asian arowana are already extremely expensive and this is due to the high demand and limited captive bred stocks. From what I can tell the tropical fish trade in america is huge if if legalized it would drive prices through the roof.

Personally I would rather they stayed illegal. I know this is pretty selfish but as a fish keeper in the uk I find many rare or exotic fish are very hard to find or are otherwise very expensive. Whereas I see many fish that I would love to be able to get bought and sold at relatively cheap prices in the usa.
I dont think you have anything to fear as I dont see the authorities changing the status of these fish.I for one am actually okay with that as much as I would like to have one.
 
Australia has state laws regulating the trade of exotics fishes. Each state has their own grey list or noxious list. Fishes on the grey list cannot be imported in the country, however if you already own one then you can keep it.

Whether you can trade or sell fishes on the grey list is debatable. The fact that asian arowanas are chipped, it is easy for the authories to prove that the fish was imported into the country, so you dont really have any grounds to argue. However if it is not a chipped fish such as green arowanas and silvers then you could argue that the fish was bred locally, however I doubt if it went to the courts you could prove this considering it is extremely rare (if not almost impossible) to breed arows in capavity.

If the fish is on the noxious list, then not only are you not able to import the fish, but authories will also have the right to seize the fish.

It is a state law, so in New South Wales (Sydney), arowanas are on the grey list. In Victoria (Melbourne), it is on the noxious list (I'm pretty sure).

my two cents.
 
Robert_Lu999;3411900; said:
Australia has state laws regulating the trade of exotics fishes. Each state has their own grey list or noxious list. Fishes on the grey list cannot be imported in the country, however if you already own one then you can keep it.


my two cents.
Interesting stuff though,I can see the need for such measures as it seems that invasives could establish themselves over much of the continent due to the climate and really endanger the native fish.
 
krichardson;3411926; said:
Interesting stuff though,I can see the need for such measures as it seems that invasives could establish themselves over much of the continent due to the climate and really endanger the native fish.
Theres pretty much no possible way they will breed anywhere else other than the conditions within asia, but Im pretty sure they can survive elsewhere, but who in the world would dump $1000 fish into the wild LOL, really, the possibility of asian aros being invasive is pretty slim.
 
Darth Scohin;3412162; said:
From what I understand the reason the U.S bans Red Aros/Asian Aros is because they're on the Endangered Species List. Get them off that list get them in your LFS.

Aw, you beat me to it. That's also why you can keep them if you already have them; there's no point in taking the fish because it's already been taken from the native stock.
 
Darth Scohin;3412162; said:
From what I understand the reason the U.S bans Red Aros/Asian Aros is because they're on the Endangered Species List. Get them off that list get them in your LFS.

They shouldn't take them off the list just because you desire one for a pet. But asian arowanas bred in Asia have chips implanted to prove they are captive bred. Whats the harm importing fish that are proven not to be from wild stock? U.S. government always seems to enact blanket bans. What a bunch of lazy babies. They did the same thing with snakeheads, banning every channa species known to man.
 
Schneider;3413484; said:
They shouldn't take them off the list just because you desire one for a pet. But asian arowanas bred in Asia have chips implanted to prove they are captive bred. Whats the harm importing fish that are proven not to be from wild stock? U.S. government always seems to enact blanket bans. What a bunch of lazy babies. They did the same thing with snakeheads, banning every channa species known to man.
Its cheaper to fish an asian aro from the wild even if it is harder. If aros were unbanned in the US, the black market would be too big to handle.
 
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