What countries are Asian Arowanas still Illegal

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Gshock;3413542; said:
Its cheaper to fish an asian aro from the wild even if it is harder. If aros were unbanned in the US, the black market would be too big to handle.
Even though most would be keepers in America would want the fancy types,if lifting the ban would further endanger the wild greens then I would rather that the status remains unchanged.
 
krichardson;3413719; said:
Even though most would be keepers in America would want the fancy types,if lifting the ban would further endanger the wild greens then I would rather that the status remains unchanged.


Wild green not that endanger you can find at every local fish shop at Jakarta:ROFL::ROFL:, Golden up that more endanger and fancy that:headbang2. I don't even think they have in Singapore and Malaysia cause they not expensive:D
 
hedut;3417309; said:
Wild green not that endanger you can find at every local fish shop at Jakarta:ROFL::ROFL:, Golden up that more endanger and fancy that:headbang2. I don't even think they have in Singapore and Malaysia cause they not expensive:D
Every pet store in Jakarta is one thing,every pet store in AMERICA is quite another.Lift the ban and they will disapear from their native waters,we seem to be heading in that direction now with the datnoids.
 
hedut;3417309; said:
Wild green not that endanger you can find at every local fish shop at Jakarta:ROFL::ROFL:, Golden up that more endanger and fancy that:headbang2. I don't even think they have in Singapore and Malaysia cause they not expensive:D
hmmm you can fish leo rays out from brazil and they're in like every LFs there, but does that mean theres plenty?
 
peewee;3409156; said:
U.S. is so strict.
the land of the free is just a story they tell you as a little kid, just like santa clause
 
krichardson;3413719; said:
Even though most would be keepers in America would want the fancy types,if lifting the ban would further endanger the wild greens then I would rather that the status remains unchanged.
if you start shutting down businesses do to the possibility of illegal activities, everyone would be out of a job.
 
I still think captive breeding is possible. Asian breeders just use large ponds, which are hardly the riverine environment these fish originate from. I don't believe in the magic water theories. I think with alot of space, proper temperature,Ph and harness these fish would probably readily spawn. Hard to find out if nobody is allowed to try. Maybe if more people were breeding them the prices wouldn't be so excessive even if they weren't bred in the US. Aren't there programs to captive breed other species of endangered fish that actually utilize hobbyist tank space? Maybe someone who could afford to run some large indoor ponds could do some good with this species. Everbody is so afraid of a dragonfish yet largemouth bass are planted all over the earth. Where were the precautions when this occured?
 
Schneider;3419728; said:
I still think captive breeding is possible. Asian breeders just use large ponds, which are hardly the riverine environment these fish originate from. I don't believe in the magic water theories. I think with alot of space, proper temperature,Ph and harness these fish would probably readily spawn. Hard to find out if nobody is allowed to try. Maybe if more people were breeding them the prices wouldn't be so excessive even if they weren't bred in the US. Aren't there programs to captive breed other species of endangered fish that actually utilize hobbyist tank space? Maybe someone who could afford to run some large indoor ponds could do some good with this species. Everbody is so afraid of a dragonfish yet largemouth bass are planted all over the earth. Where were the precautions when this occured?
Its been tried many times out of asia, with only ONE successful spawn, in london or something in a public aquarium after the aros have been together for like 10 years or so. Only thing is, if i remember correctly only 3 of the fry acually survived. Its alot harder than putting a male and a female in a large pond, arowanas just dont work like guppies. Even if someone could run a system this large to attempt to breed them, would this person really maintain this for years to come until some results if any start to show? What aquarist has such a big sum of money and time on hand to do such a thing? Without even thinking of the amount of aros you'd have to buy, just the renovations, electricity bill, hydro, and food bill would kill you.
 
sostoudt;3419651; said:
if you start shutting down businesses do to the possibility of illegal activities, everyone would be out of a job.
Thats a good point but who said anything about shutting down businesses?They are not allowed here do to their precarious situation,would you want them to be further at risk just you can spend your money and purchase one or a few?I would'nt,no status/law changes needed.
 
krichardson;3419814; said:
Thats a good point but who said anything about shutting down businesses?They are not allowed here do to their precarious situation,would you want them to be further at risk just you can spend your money and purchase one or a few?I would'nt,no status/law changes needed.
would you want people abusing painkillers and possibly killing themselves just so you dont have to have some pain in your back?, hum i guess they should outlaw those too based on your logic.
 
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