Wild Blue Umbees: Monster X

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UMBEEKING;5103074; said:
Yes. I have collected two different strains of this color variant. However I am currently working with one out of the two. Stay tuned.:D



Sorry for the late response, computer problems. Yes they are Colombian Blues and whatever locations we cross( Location X with Location Z or Location Z with Rio Magdalena) will still make Colombian Blue Umbees. Same species just different populations in different rivers. As for the hobby you stated species are often referred by the country of orgin, This is somewhat true but not entirely. In the hobby Fish are sold by there collecting points or "River of Origin." For example Rio Copan Motaguense, Rio Blanco Motaguense, Rio Heredia Dovi or Lake Arenal Dovi etc. Same species from two different collecting points and colors may vary. This helps the customers to Identify which strain or variant of that particualr species they like and can help the suppiler with sales. You also asked if the Green and Blue Umbriferum are genetically different. If you are referring to Panama Green Umbriferum I believe that it is a sub species and not a color variant of Caquetaia Umbriferum, But I am no geneticist and will leave that up to the scientist to make that call. There is a green color variant of Colombian Umbriferum that does exsist. Also a population of BLACK UMBRIFERUM that is green when small but as the fish matures turns black. I hope this helps brotha and thank you again. UMBEEKING


Thank you Chris for helping clear that up:) I hope you get your computer fixed as it would be a shame to loose all that footage from your trip collecting the Black Umbees and I cant WAIT to see the thread on those guys:headbang2
 
UMBEEKING;5103074; said:
Yes. I have collected two different strains of this color variant. However I am currently working with one out of the two. Stay tuned.:D



Sorry for the late response, computer problems. Yes they are Colombian Blues and whatever locations we cross( Location X with Location Z or Location Z with Rio Magdalena) will still make Colombian Blue Umbees. Same species just different populations in different rivers. As for the hobby you stated species are often referred by the country of orgin, This is somewhat true but not entirely. In the hobby Fish are sold by there collecting points or "River of Origin." For example Rio Copan Motaguense, Rio Blanco Motaguense, Rio Heredia Dovi or Lake Arenal Dovi etc. Same species from two different collecting points and colors may vary. This helps the customers to Identify which strain or variant of that particualr species they like and can help the suppiler with sales. You also asked if the Green and Blue Umbriferum are genetically different. If you are referring to Panama Green Umbriferum I believe that it is a sub species and not a color variant of Caquetaia Umbriferum, But I am no geneticist and will leave that up to the scientist to make that call. There is a green color variant of Colombian Umbriferum that does exsist. Also a population of BLACK UMBRIFERUM that is green when small but as the fish matures turns black. I hope this helps brotha and thank you again. UMBEEKING

Cool, I did not put much thought on the naming of strains. After I posted I started thinking and knew that would be brought up....the more and more I thought about it I keep coming up with rivers and lakes species are collected at and named after that collection point. Thanks for the info and yes I was referring to the Panama Green. I have seen your video on youtube and you appear to catch a black Umbriferum on there not sure though.
 
Yes chris has a video posted on you tube called "realm of the umbee" in that video you will see some blues and blacks caught last year:) I'm waiting to see the post for the collection this year;)
 
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