Discus Breeding System

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Note, I am not a Discus person.
I have thought about doing it and done some reading.
If it were me, I would not buy a 2" discus for 19.99 from an aquabidder.
I would buy a group from Hans Discus.
Look at this link
http://discusfishstore.com/product-category/cobalt-discus/
He has 2.5 inch cobalts for $27, not much more expensive (and larger)
Stendker Discus are in high demand. They have great brand recognition. It would be easier to sell if you say that they are offspring from a pair of Stendker Discus that you got from Hans.
Note, I am not saying anyone else's discuss are bad, but you want to sell these, so you want them to be very marketable. Use the Stendker reputation to your advantage.

Honestly, I would buy a group of 6 or 8 of the same strain from Hans, and work out the procedure of growing them out and breeding them. Then once you have breed a pair and want to add a new strain (ie you have experience and know what you are doing), you could buy a proven pair from Hans. A proven pair is expensive, but one batch of fry probably recoups the cost you paid for the proven pair, and for a breeding project it is probably more economically viable than buying 6-8 and growing them out.

That is how I would do this operation if I was you. There have been many want to be discus breeders that spent a lot of money up front and then had their fish die. I would definitely start with one group only, grow them out, get babies, see how hard it is to sell babies, etc.
Discus seem like a ton of work.. that is why I have not tried them. Start with one group and see if this is really right for you. You can go ahead and set up your rack system now of course.

There is a marketplace forum on SimplyDiscus.. seems like most hobbyist have no problem selling their fry there.. It will give you a good idea of the market.
 
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That is a good point and while selling isn't the main point of my endeavor it would be nice to recoup costs at least somewhat
 
Note, I am not a Discus person.
I have thought about doing it and done some reading.
If it were me, I would not buy a 2" discus for 19.99 from an aquabidder.
I would buy a group from Hans Discus.
Look at this link
http://discusfishstore.com/product-category/cobalt-discus/
He has 2.5 inch cobalts for $27, not much more expensive (and larger)
Stendker Discus are in high demand. They have great brand recognition. It would be easier to sell if you say that they are offspring from a pair of Stendker Discus that you got from Hans.
Note, I am not saying anyone else's discuss are bad, but you want to sell these, so you want them to be very marketable. Use the Stendker reputation to your advantage.

Honestly, I would buy a group of 6 or 8 of the same strain from Hans, and work out the procedure of growing them out and breeding them. Then once you have breed a pair and want to add a new strain (ie you have experience and know what you are doing), you could buy a proven pair from Hans. A proven pair is expensive, but one batch of fry probably recoups the cost you paid for the proven pair, and for a breeding project it is probably more economically viable than buying 6-8 and growing them out.

That is how I would do this operation if I was you. There have been many want to be discus breeders that spent a lot of money up front and then had their fish die. I would definitely start with one group only, grow them out, get babies, see how hard it is to sell babies, etc.
Discus seem like a ton of work.. that is why I have not tried them. Start with one group and see if this is really right for you. You can go ahead and set up your rack system now of course.

There is a marketplace forum on SimplyDiscus.. seems like most hobbyist have no problem selling their fry there.. It will give you a good idea of the market.

Thanks for the advice, always welcome. I did price out discus from Hans (in my google sheet), I was working on a balance between price and looks. You are right, Stendker has name recognition and is one of the better choices. When it comes time I will have to take all these options in and make my decision. This is all still preliminary, construction and research.
 
Hey, is the system still under development? :)
 
Hendre Hendre yes, unfortunately it is still under construction. I had a change in plans with the bottom layer of aquariums. I decided to cut two of the 55 gallons up and use that glass in some plywood aquariums. With the wedding coming up next month I haven't had a lot of time to work on it, but I hope to finish the plywood aquariums up tomorrow. Then start in on drilling some glass and the filtration, I will be happy once I get to start filling these puppies up with some fish.

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Looking good! I wish you luck for the wedding!

I'm liking the look of this, I may be doing a smaller project myself soon
 
Thanks Hendre Hendre !

I have to add some more bracing to the plywood, then I am going to paint them. Once that is dry and I might do a couple more coats, I will start in on sealing the inside. I am getting excited things are starting to take shape.

What project are you thinking about starting?

Also, I saw these eels for sale and I am debating on getting them a couple months after the wedding.
 
This has a lot of thought into it, quite interesting for sure

I'm getting celestial pearl danios at a low price so may breed those in spare tanks and set up a rack if it's profitable. Just to support my young self with fishkeeping.

Eels are cool but just get huge. Ship in a well insulated box!
 
Sorry I haven't posted in a while. There has been a lot of progress though.

The plywood aquariums, I have altered them quite a bit from the original pictures I showed. They were going to have 2 panels of glass, I changed that to 1 since I will not be looking at them through the rear where all the plumbing is going to be. After that I did some reinforcing, just the 1/2" plywood would clearly not be enough (I am not sure what I was originally thinking). I doubled up on the bottom piece of plywood (glued and screwed) the sheets together. Then I ran 1"x4" around the corners and in long runs on the back.

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I was not only screwing all these pieces together I was gluing them and once I had them all together I added a little glue to the seams just for good measure.

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Once all the screwing and gluing was done and dry I started the painting.

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I have more done, I am going to make another post for that since I can only upload a certain number of images.

I will be posting again soon with those updates.
 
After getting further into the plywood aquarium construction I realized I would not be able to just slide the sheets of glass in and glue them, I was going to have to cut them. This would not have been such an issue had I checked to see if they were tempered or not...

Needless to say this happened on the first sheet I tried to cut. It did not blow up on the scoring of the glass it was me trying to snap that piece off.... and yes I was thinking something was wrong when I had to put that much pressure on it to break it off.

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The piece literally blew up, I have been finding pieces all over my garage, it went everywhere. I now check every piece of glass before scoring and trying to break to see if it is tempered or not. Just so everyone knows tempered glass (safty glass) explodes when broken. However, it can quite a bit of abuse before it will explode.

So to check I did the ole polarized sunglasses trick and a laptop monitor (I would have used my phone but I had added a screen protector that is tempered and would throw it all off).

My next cut/break was successful, well I considered it a success it didn't blow up.

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A bit jagged, but it worked! I figured I would sand down the rest of it so I didn't run the risk of breaking too much. I used medium grit sandpaper (80-100 grit).

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I am still working on this part, but it is getting there. This part just takes time since I am avoiding cracking this piece.

Now back to the plywood, I put a couple coats of paint on the outside and inside of the tanks. I have also now added a couple coats of pond armor.

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So everything is moving pretty quickly now so I thought I would setup a quarantine tank so I can start cycling some media and even get some fish soon. Especially if I am getting 2"-3" and it will be months before they are able to breed. I had to clean and then setup the tank.

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I am considering adding a tank divider in there and putting some of my bio balls in there with an air pump to start getting my media cycled for the rack.
 
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