First time cichlid tank cycling help?

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borrowed media for my LFS, i just put it in, and the fish, and thats it? or do i still have to use saechem prime?
Hello; There are two things going on in a new tank setup that we have been discussing in your thread. There is a bit of overlap with regard to the ammonia.

First the bacteria cycle. The fish produce waste products that include ammonia same as humans do. When the ammonia builds up in the water they live in it is harmful/damaging to the fish. (They are in effect swimming in their own toilet.) There are two kinds of beneficial bacteria (bb) that convert the ammonia to a less harmful product called nitrate. The problem being that it takes time for the bb to establish, sometimes weeks. We can borrow colonies of the bb from already established tanks to put in a new tank and have bb quickly in place.

Next the use of chemicals such as Safe or Prime or some other. This can be an ongoing thing even after the new tank is cycled. Much will depend on the water source. So far I do not recall if you have provided any information about your water. The Safe/Prime will protect the fish from things like chlorine, chloramine, ammonia and nitrate. Of course it is not that simple.

step-by-step on how to cycle the tank with borrowed media?
Hello; I posted a link a few posts back. It is a thorough discussion and a long and hard read. Bookmark it and keep going back to it. I do. We will help but are unlikely to be able to walk you thru all issues in these posts. You will need to learn this stuff at any rate.

prime to avoid ammo or nitrite poisoning on your fish.

Hello; predatorkeeper87 is correct in that you are better off using the water conditioner in the new tank. There may be options later on after you learn the ropes, but for now I agree that it is wise to use some water treatment chemical. The bb numbers vary in relation to several things and it is somewhat likely you will have some ammonia spikes and nitrite spikes. New fishkeepers are very likely to overfeed and add too many fish too soon, being a couple of common issues that cause such spikes. Read the link I posted to find out about nitrite, ammonia and nitrate.

predatorkeeper87 is steering you well. Good luck.
 
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Hello! I've found a product by sachem that claims only 250 mls of it, is equal to 6 litres of prime! Its called seachem safe, and it appears to do all the same things as prime. Would that be sufficient?
 
Hello! I've found a product by sachem that claims only 250 mls of it, is equal to 6 litres of prime! Its called seachem safe, and it appears to do all the same things as prime. Would that be sufficient?
Hello; They are versions of the same product. Prime is the liquid mix version of safe. Safe is in powder form. I recently bought a bottle of each.
The prime was $4.99 for a 100 ml bottle that wil treat 1000 gallons/4,000 L.
The Safe was $31.99 for a 1 kg bottle that will treat up tp 200,000 gallons.
 
cost whys, safe the way to go, they are the exact same product. been using safe for years now. I change around 500g of water a week, with prime that is a large expense. a 2.2LB jar of prime last me almost 2 years for a fraction of the cost. and i do mean fraction, like a nickle on the dollar.
 
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