Monster sized canister for Monster tank

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So before i go into why i'm exploring a closed system for my build let me explain my unique situation. First i have an all tempered glass aquarium (Thanks Sean from Brockton!) meaning no drilling, second my basement floor is not level, my filter room is 6" lower than my display room, third the ceilings in my basement are low due to a bulkhead for my HVAC system and that's not going to move. So i can't raise my tank any higher or else in-tank maintenance will be as imaginary as your girlfriends ;).

So because of the unique placement of my tank, i'm exploring the unique benefits to having a closed head system vs open. The primary reason i'm exploring this type of a system is space requirements. In order for a open system to function property, water levels are looking to be equal in both tank and filter, rather pressure. Meaning my filter system needs to be raised off the ground a significant amount (top of aquarium is 60" above filter floor). Any suction system to move water from the tank to the open system will either be consistently running due to pressure gradient, or a pump since i have to go up above the rim of the tank.

A closed system, like i'm exploring, works only when pressure is lowered in the canister portion of the system no matter the height of the filter relative to the tank. Much like smaller canisters, which can be tucked anywhere around a tank, i can slam this canister right on the floor if i wanted. Another benefit of a closed system is humidity control. My home has a significant problem already (poorly constructed) and I've already devised a tight hood for the aquarium. Open systems while they can have lids but not as tightly fitted

Further, I hear you when it comes to canister neglect. But any filter can be neglected with the wrong owner. My design, if it works properly, will incorporate a swirl to help filter larger debris before up flowing through mechanical filter then down a central tube full of bio balls. Just like open systems i've planned back washing and drains into each section. (scrubber pads are easy to lift off the top)

I'll keep you updated as parts come in
 
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I have a closed loop, basement system. Still under construction.
The white tank will house filter socks, sealed at 5psi, gravity in. Should operate like a IV bag dripper, with an air gap.
The 55 gallon drum is storage only, it does collect sediment. It gets isolated and pumped to the garden, during water changes. Refilled then aged to remove chlorine.
The swimming pool filter, will be full of K2.
Water will be suctioned, out and pumped into a filter floss tray on the top of the tank.
No room for a sump as two tanks are stacked and on separate systems. The lower tank is a traditional sump. Less a closed loop 55 gallon water change drum.
 
So i started lay out of my new filter. I found i cant use my original spot for the filter "canister" due to tempuratures, my garage is around 45 degrees. So i have moved indoors next to the tank, yay:( i also have decided a split filter may be best. Using a 55gal open barrel as a mechanical filter box and heater area that is drawn off of by a closed 30 gal for bio filter. The pump is the lowest point, in order to help it draw and if i need to drain the system.20170104_165902.jpg 20170104_172915.jpg 20170104_165902.jpg 20170104_172915.jpg

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Have you thought about using a HOB overflow for a sump? Just throwing it out there in case you might still want to explore the sump route.
 
Have you thought about using a HOB overflow for a sump? Just throwing it out there in case you might still want to explore the sump route.

My biggest concern for a HOB is flooding/ running a pump dry...so i made a massive one out of a 55 gallon barrel which will double as a mechanical filter before a 30 gallon bio filter. I just managed to silicone it all up sunday night and started gluing pvc together. I will get some pictures once the barrels are in place.
 
So i did my first wet test yesterday, only two leaks, one was the return on the pump where the PVC fitting screws it. Any one have a good solution to this? its already bottomed out in the threads
 
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