The MONSTER Fluval G series!!!

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so if what you are saying is true then a filter with 1 litre of media and a turn over of 20,000 LPH should work just fine :D

as for the amount of people who have FX5s thats down to Budget

fluval have brought this new filter out and all the fluval fan boys say they wont buy it as its all about price

so many people have the FX5 because its a big budget filter nothing more if it was priced the same as the G i wonder how many would have been sold
 
fluval have brought this new filter out and all the fluval fan boys say they wont buy it as its all about price
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Sorry you mis read about 300 posts about the price concerns of the filter. Its all about VALUE. If you feel something is worth the price, then there is a good chance you will buy it. If you feel its not worth the price, then your probably not going to buy it. Most people on the forum feel that the G series filters are not WORTH the price. This is nothing do to with "Fluval Fan Boys". I bought the Fx5 because I felt it was worth the price. Just over $200 after all said and done for a filter that performs all the functions I want it to perform. I felt the VALUE was right. I also feel the Eheim 2262 VALUE is right because of the benefits over the Fx5. The G series has features only salt water or reef keepers would want and the low flow, cartridge design and pleated filter design is a reduction in VALUE for the cost of the filter.

so if what you are saying is true then a filter with 1 litre of media and a turn over of 20,000 LPH should work just fine
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I don't know where you are coming from as I saw nothing that relates to what you said in TheCanuck posts.

You put a filter on a 150 gallon tank that has less that 300 GPH flow rate, do you REALLY think its going to perform mechanical filtration efficiently? No. It can't, its impossible. You will need to introduce power heads to keep the debris suspended so that the small low suction intake can pick it up. This is why Fluval says it so efficient at mechanical filtration because it never picks anything up. lol.
 
as i said ITS NOT ALL ABOUT FLOW RATE

if you have a 5000 lph hour pump on a 1 ft sump and the same pump on a 6x2x2 sump which would work better

its not just the power of the pump that makes a good filter its a combo of many things

lots of discus keepers want big bio and mech filtration but dont want a big FX5 blowing the fish all over the place

the FX5 sold well because it was cheap if the 2080 was in the same price range it might have been a diffrent story
 
T1KARMANN;3698942; said:
as i said ITS NOT ALL ABOUT FLOW RATE

if you have a 5000 lph hour pump on a 1 ft sump and the same pump on a 6x2x2 sump which would work better

its not just the power of the pump that makes a good filter its a combo of many things

lots of discus keepers want big bio and mech filtration but dont want a big FX5 blowing the fish all over the place

the FX5 sold well because it was cheap if the 2080 was in the same price range it might have been a diffrent story
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Totally agree with you. It's as if a bunch of amateur aquarists know more than the engineers at Eheim, etc. The interesting thing is it seems GPH is important to American aquarists, yet Europeans seem to hardly even discuss it, and many (most) of their tanks have comparatively much slower flow rates with excellent results.......and no blue gravel either! Haha!

The wastes we should be concerned about are dissolved in the tank's water. Particulate pickup is important for aesthetics, but it's the dissolved wastes that are the danger (and particulated will just sit in the filter anyway).

DWELL TIME is higher at slower flow rates. It is possible to reduce efficiency of bio-filtration if the flow rate is too high. Flow rates and dwell times need to be coordinated for a good combination of filtration options, but biofiltration is the root purpose of a filter.
 
T1KARMANN;3698942; said:
as i said ITS NOT ALL ABOUT FLOW RATE

if you have a 5000 lph hour pump on a 1 ft sump and the same pump on a 6x2x2 sump which would work better
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Except the FX5 is has tons of media space, so the comparison isn't very good.

its not just the power of the pump that makes a good filter its a combo of many things

lots of discus keepers want big bio and mech filtration but dont want a big FX5 blowing the fish all over the place
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So maybe they should get a sump instead?

the FX5 sold well because it was cheap if the 2080 was in the same price range it might have been a diffrent story
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IMO, the factors that play into the usefulness of a canister are as follows:
Flow rate
Media capacity
Ease of use (ease of detachment and cleaning, media basket configuration, etc.)
Energy efficiency

Factors that do NOT play into the usefulness of a canister:
LCD screen
Shineyness
Brand name/bragging rights

End result: Will I pay an extra $300 for a shinier canister? No.

The wastes we should be concerned about are dissolved in the tank's water. Particulate pickup is important for aesthetics, but it's the dissolved wastes that are the danger (and particulated will just sit in the filter anyway).
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The dissolved wastes are removed by water changes or adsorbents like purigen or carbon. The canister doesn't even really affect that.
Besides, anyone can make a wider or skinnier canister without charging triple for it.
 
T1KARMANN;3698942; said:
lots of discus keepers want big bio and mech filtration but dont want a big FX5 blowing the fish all over the place
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:ROFL: can't help but laugh at the image of a bunch of discus being pegged against the glass by the fx5.


That being said, these canisters seem perfect for small reef/saltwater tanks. Putting them on multiple hundred gallon tanks doesn't seem so practical.
 
as I believe I stated earlier on this thread, the probes that they have are really of use to the saltwater reef enthusiast (eg. conductivity, pH) and not much benefit to freshwater tanks.

however, they are not being marketed towards that niche, which doesn't really make sense..

they should be pushing this filter on the reefers that might actually benefit from the probes and actually have the excess cash to make it worth their time to buy one.

otherwise, buy two FX5's for almost the same price as the larger unit..and probably get better filtration (but you don't get the fancy probes)
 
HAY GUYS DONT KNOCK IT IT HAS BLUE LEDS OK?!?!?

When I need blue LEDs on my filter I'll put some 50 cent blue LEDs on a filter.

Secondly, why would they put a conductivity meter in a freshwater filter instead of something useful like, say, UVC light, which would kill bacteria, viruses and parasites?
For $500 it better have an arm with a UVC light that wipes and sanitizes my ass.
 
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