What makes Japenese style tanks possible?

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gomezladdams;1093070; said:
I have to admit to being facinated by those packed tanks but I dont think I would keep one.

:iagree: This was my point all along.

I know what I have posted will be interpeted as some kind of "hate". These tanks are considered "the next level" of fish keeping. Not to me. I have no desire to have a tank like that. My interpetation of next level is JohnPTC or digging my yard up to install a 100,000 gallons. I think to say some of us "hate" because of inexperience is irresponsible. Some of these tanks look amazing and the fish look wonderful. Do I want one?? No. Am I mad at anyone for having one?? Nope. Your money, your fish!!! Cheers!!!!
 
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Yup
 
Dread;1093010; said:
As far as I know, and this could be wrong, but it does peice together. In Japan, they have a love of monster fish, but because most parts of Japan are so jammed packed, alot of the residents are unable to have very large tanks because of space restrictions. So they pack a bunch of large fish into a smaller tank, and just up the filtration and water changes to even it out, sort've.

This is one of my favourite examples:
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I know it's probably been discussed to death. I consider that not Japanese style I consider that cruelty style since it looks like that :arapaimag: cannot even turn around and is almost the same size as the tank. Whoever has that tank should be ashamed of themselves.
 
Greenaveli;1092806; said:
I think the majority of us are advanced enough aquarist to know without a doubt that just because its clear doesnt mean its good.

No doubt but I have seen many many people dis Marshy's tank because it's "overstocked". And have a problem with Japanese style tanks in general. Not to get back on the subject but since most know that tank. The water is clear, fish are active and all are in good health.

But think about what kind of example we set if we walk into the average non-mfk fishkeepers house in america and took pictures and some videos. Probably a couple oscars in an tiny tank with africans and others mixed in it with water algae green tint. I know clear water isn't always mean it's good but green/discolored water can be a sign of your fishkeeping merits.

In general: Honestly we have a different way of fishkeeping over here but you can't deny that true japanese style tanks take alot of knowledge to keep/top care. And if you don't think so then you are most probably to inexperianced to realize how hard it would be. Superlaz had some great points.

Just as some here apparently try to recreate the natural enviroment some of us don't. But you summed it up Greenaveli "To each his own"
 
yet another japanese thread? #1 should have used the search function and found out there is another thread, EXACTLY like this one that already happened - before making yet another one.....

you guys gotta remember, what makes a fish "happy"? how does a fish show that it is "happy"?

- clean environment
- room to swim
- quality food
- care from owner
- for some fish, a dynamic changing environment (sometimes caused by the presence of other fish!)

now, how does a fish show it is "happy"?

-color
-growth
-behavior
-basically, overall "health"

why the "_" 's --- because we DONT KNOW ... they are FISH.....

so, in a "japanese" style tank - if most of the parameters of WHAT make a fish happy are there, and the fish is showing most of the signs that it is happy...............;)
 
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