Wild Fish..... Economics

[armac]

oh no , you just said second and third gen. fish have more color, more sociable and easier to breed than true wild caught fish.
are you serious man , I'm done with your comments I discredit anything you say bro. Wild fish and there color cant be compared, and as far as breeding there the most active . all i can say is wow

Not to be starting anything, but WC fish are harder to breed. You sir, have never paired a fish yourself, you tried with some convicts, but I think that did not produce for you. You have purchased nice pre-paired fish and they have produced for you, congrats. Why do we care what you do for a living. If you cannot even write a sentence how do you do proposals? In emoticons?

Serously MOB you started out fine, asking questions and trying to learn. Then you bought up some fish, nice fish, and now you are the expert on all things cichlid. That is what diturbs me. I could care less about you and your fish.

Ira I hope your business propsers. I look forward to about two months from now when the MOB takes up paintballing or online gaming, or something else intellectual and vacates this board, and becomes some other board's expert. I doubt his attention span can maintain him here much longer.

 

[Citrinellus]

I should probably stay out of this, but from my perspective your arguments are making all of you look discreditable and bad. I'm not sure whether I would buy from either of your suppliers if they have to result to insulting each other to promote themselves. Just my 2 cents.

 

[capefeartarheel]

ok , no skills from a IPhone your right., and like i said I have more experience with fish than you, where are your fish? your all talk and no threads. I only speak for myself but i stand up when some cowards with no fish in there tank's or the pics to prove so call me out or my supplier. And I do construction bro not English class look me up my last name is McCrae, I own a electrical contracting company in Philadelphia, Pa , I employ local 98 member's , My biggest job to give you a Idea was the Eagles Stadium , and this is all S%%% you can Google. So as far as being stupid or whatever I highly doubt it. PS : I own more fish than you too and I know more about them

Well that explains it. A union lackey with an iphone. No wonder you have SO MUCH TIME to post pics and troll the forum.

You do know that fishkeeping didnt start the day you got a tank right? And that people have been keeping fish for a long time, right?

and LMAO @ the

"I own more fish than you too and I know more about them"

comment.

Yea, you win boy. After that comment, Im outta this convo.

 

[cchhcc]

To imply that a wild fish is any different than an F1 (or a well bred F5+ for that matter) is to simply misunderstand genetics. It is IMPOSSIBLE for a species to express genetics different from their parents in just one generation (with the rare exception of mutations).

There are some environmental factors that lead to the anecdotal, yet still erroneous, understanding of the "superiority" of wild fish. Chief among them: space, water quality, variety of nutritional sources, and exposure to sunlight. All of those factors can be replicated or neglected in captivity.

Regarding wild fish on farms in CA, I don't really care what people think they are. I just want to know the economics involved in their collection, distribution, etc.

Capefear, back to my LFS example. You are correct. They cram a bunch of large individuals into 75s and 125s and wonder why their mortality rate is so high. It would be easier to understand if I hadn't seen them do this for years. Part of me has to wonder if they even care about making money.

 

[caribemob]

Not to be starting anything, but WC fish are harder to breed. You sir, have never paired a fish yourself, you tried with some convicts, but I think that did not produce for you. You have purchased nice pre-paired fish and they have produced for you, congrats. Why do we care what you do for a living. If you cannot even write a sentence how do you do proposals? In emoticons?

Serously MOB you started out fine, asking questions and trying to learn. Then you bought up some fish, nice fish, and now you are the expert on all things cichlid. That is what diturbs me. I could care less about you and your fish.

Ira I hope your business propsers. I look forward to about two months from now when the MOB takes up paintballing or online gaming, or something else intellectual and vacates this board, and becomes some other board's expert. I doubt his attention span can maintain him here much longer.

Ok OFFICER, i don't want no trouble, i even named a fish after you Officer relax

 

[armac]

ok , no skills from a IPhone your right., and like i said I have more experience with fish than you, where are your fish? your all talk and no threads. I only speak for myself but i stand up when some cowards with no fish in there tank's or the pics to prove so call me out or my supplier. And I do construction bro not English class look me up my last name is McCrae, I own a electrical contracting company in Philadelphia, Pa , I employ local 98 member's , My biggest job to give you a Idea was the Eagles Stadium , and this is all S%%% you can Google. So as far as being stupid or whatever I highly doubt it. PS : I own more fish than you too and I know more about them

And I had classified him as sublevel intelligence/maturity.......see even I can be wrong.

Can your Dad beat up my Dad? Will you take away my lunch money? Are you the king of the school bus?

Many more, but let's leave it here.

 

[buddha1200]

So I think we should just all agree to disagree. Anybody I have offended I apologize. This thread is way out of control again happy fish keeping and have a good evening.

 

[cchhcc]

So I think we should just all agree to disagree. Anybody I have offended I apologize. This thread is way out of control again happy fish keeping and have a good evening.

Yes. Definitely off topic..... AGAIN!

 

[caribemob]

hey dogofar, my bottom line is that a wild fish isn't comparable to a second or third Gen fish, that's period

 

[cchhcc]

hey dogofar, my bottom line is that a wild fish isn't comparable to a second or third Gen fish, that's period

When you state things as "generally understood fact" yet it is in contrast to the reality most experienced fishkeepers believe you really need to supply some supporting evidence. Even a basic understanding of genetics and/or biology would lead one to dispute your statement.

I'm not offering that as a challenge to your statement. Rather, it's an attempt to get you to understand how you may get some colorful responses from time to time!