Am I crazy? Hybrids

[DB junkie]

I assumed that since you said you are cixelsid..... I'm glad I never claimed to know anything about rays cause at this point even if I did claim to know something I would be questioning it.....

 

[csx4236]

ha ha this thread is great, seems we all have kinda misunderstood the correct wording in science terms and hobby definition.

**** it I am still going to call mine F2

 

[T1KARMANN]

ha ha this thread is great, seems we all have kinda misunderstood the correct wording in science terms and hobby definition.

**** it I am still going to call mine F2

me to and i am working hard for F3 in a few years

or maybe i will just call them F2 and beyond

 

[DB junkie]

You can call em polka dotted pancakes for all I care.... As long as the marbling is nice I'de buy em..... I don't want a certificate with it though.........

 

[DB junkie]

errmmmm....NO!!!
the only way to keep blood lined pure is to constantly outcross with wilds.

Ps, Dyslexia probably sux, but the spell check tool works great

I stand corrected......Wow.... that's a real twist on those Arro Certs. And it looks to me like the spell check tool SUX..... LOL

 

[Zoodiver]

I think 'hobby' and 'science' aren't mixing well in this thread.

Comparing them to asian arows can only go so far. When was the last time you saw someone tryng to sell one natural looking? Doubtful. Nobody would wants the dull brown asain arows - just the 'cool' non-natural color phases. Asian arow breeders are in no way worried about what nature had going... only in profit.

Same is starting to happen with rays. Some people will be in it for profit, some will be in it to preserve the natural state of them. Both sides need to work togeher so FW stingrays don't become an endagered species as well.

 

[DB junkie]

Maybe we should also talk about fatty liver disease in rays from feeding incorrect diet?

?? I'm listening......
Also curious as to what kind of rays you keep?

 

[T1KARMANN]

this seems to be a new definition for 'deliberate ignorance'. You now know the correct terms and usage and still choose to have it your way, yet you wonder if the aro certs are legit.

Maybe we should also talk about fatty liver disease in rays from feeding incorrect diet?

my rays get the right food pellets big company's like hikari have done plenty of research to get the balance right

why change the subject this is not about food its about breeding

as for my adult p14 the female was purchased from frank and the male from another breeder in Germany so they were unrelated adults yet still classed as F2 by frank look on his website under whats new

you say the aro certs are wrong but with people will to pay top $$$$ for aros you would think they would have their paperwork in order when it needs to go throw CITIES

wheres that spell check button

 

[StripeGirl]

 

[T1KARMANN]

I think 'hobby' and 'science' aren't mixing well in this thread.

Comparing them to Asian arows can only go so far. When was the last time you saw someone trunk to sell one natural looking? Doubtful. Nobody would wants the dull brown Asian arows - just the 'cool' non-natural color phases. Asian arow breeders are in no way worried about what nature had going... only in profit.

Same is starting to happen with rays. Some people will be in it for profit, some will be in it to preserve the natural state of them. Both sides need to work togeher so FW stingrays don't become an endagered species as well.

very good point which brings us back to the topic with all the hybrids the pure state of black rays is being destroyed

i also dont think a malysian gold in its pure state is a dull green colored aro

i also dont think a leo is a dull boring ray so their is no need to improve it with hybrids