Help with sump set-up

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What could happen? The odds have to be crazy for both of my primary drains to fail no? I know it's best to go worst case and I will ask about 2" again but they said the ghost overflow usually maxes out with 1.5" bulkheads.

Also the aquarium and the sump won't technically be full to capacity which should bring the GPH down. I based my calculations on my 120G sump + 305G tank = 425G but it will be less given the sump is likely to be 3/4 full and tank 2" or so from the top.

If I have the room I'll just add a second emergency drain giving me four 1.5" drains

Anything can happen. Not about odds. Just a suggestion but technially the 1.5 e drain might not handle the flow even if one of your e drains fail. Rough estimate of a gravity fed e drain is 1400 gph. Thats allot of water to be messing around with in your home

The reason why dual herbie was designed with and e drain to match each siphon is because of Murphy 's law
 
You all likely know this, but traditionally a Herbie is one siphon with a trickle edrain. Although two full siphons would turn more, the single edrain wont keep up especially if it isnt low enough to reach full siphon.

I too prefer massive turnover like many, but if this were me, I'd stick to Herbie with a single full siphon, trickle and throw in. third dry stand edrain. Then again, or just go with BA in this case. Also, the pvc charts that's often used as reference for gravity fed gph doesnt account for partially closed pvc via valves do they?
 
Hey sorry guys a bit of a delay on everything. My tank is curing and I'm way behind on the sump as work got crazy on me. I'm ordering the glass panels for the baffles today however. For the first chamber it was suggested that I raise the baffle 1.5" off the base so the water flows into the media. Is it ok if I just raise the baffle like that and not drill holes or slots along the bottom?

Also I decided to go with current USA eflux 6010 (1900GPH) return pumps. They will work as an integrated system with my lights and wave/circ pumps in the tank. Where I am I get good service and pricing on them if anything goes wrong. Running two of these should be fine in achieving 2600GPH turnover.

Another thing I should mention is that the ghost overflow can only accommodate 1.5" drains and not 2" like was suggested on here. I'm hoping they will be ok (aquarium guys say it will) and worst case I will have to dial back the pumps and turnover rate.

Any thoughts guys? Will have better updates and finally pictures soon! Thanks

I'm curious why you have opted to go with an eflux pump over a Jebao pump. What made you decide to go that route?
 
I'm curious why you have opted to go with an eflux pump over a Jebao pump. What made you decide to go that route?
I can buy eflux from my local aquarium store and they work as part of a system that links the lights, wave pumps, return pumps to one controller and also an app on my phone. The new Jeboas don't have as many reviews and my main worry is customer service and having to order parts through amazon etc. Sounds like they are comparable pumps as far as noise reduction anyway.
 
You all likely know this, but traditionally a Herbie is one siphon with a trickle edrain. Although two full siphons would turn more, the single edrain wont keep up especially if it isnt low enough to reach full siphon.

I too prefer massive turnover like many, but if this were me, I'd stick to Herbie with a single full siphon, trickle and throw in. third dry stand edrain. Then again, or just go with BA in this case. Also, the pvc charts that's often used as reference for gravity fed gph doesnt account for partially closed pvc via valves do they?

Good point about the flow rate charts. I just use them as a guidline and wouldnt be comfortable running the system at the exact capacity the e drains (gravity fed) are stated to be able to handle.

Herbie can have two siphons (dual herbie) but the e drains need to account for this. Having two siphons ans one e drain is something i wouldnt be comfy doing. Agree about doing BA it seems to make more sense in this set up
 
Good point about the flow rate charts. I just use them as a guidline and wouldnt be comfortable running the system at the exact capacity the e drains (gravity fed) are stated to be able to handle.


Herbie can have two siphons (dual herbie) but the e drains need to account for this. Having two siphons ans one e drain is something i wouldnt be comfy doing. Agree about doing BA it seems to make more sense in this set up

Yup. What I meant was you can have many sets of Herbies, but it's primary set up with one primary siphon and none trickle. You can replicate this as many times as you have room and need for I soppose.
 
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I will just do bean Animal with an added emergency drain giving me one full siphon, one open channel, and two emergency drains all 1.5" PVC
 
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Not sure if I should post a new thread for this but any advice on moving my 600lb aquarium to my basement? I will likely need a hand cart of sorts as I have a 90deg turn to get to my basement steps with minimal wiggle room. I'm just worried about moving it step by step on its side like that. J jaws7777 apparently slid his somehow?
 
Not sure if I should post a new thread for this but any advice on moving my 600lb aquarium to my basement? I will likely need a hand cart of sorts as I have a 90deg turn to get to my basement steps with minimal wiggle room. I'm just worried about moving it step by step on its side like that. J jaws7777 apparently slid his somehow?

I hired movers.
 
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Ok guys after disappearing for a while I have resurfaced and finally have my tank. Just siliconed my baffles in my sump and was hoping I didn’t screw anything up. Do you guys agree having the egg crate in the media chamber just above the height of where the water will enter and exit that chamber? The water should make contact with the media sufficiently I hope, or would it mostly sail underneath and head out towards my pump chamber? I thought of putting a small baffle in the middle to force the water to go through the media then back down to the next baffle exit. Hopefully this makes sense and I would love some opinions. Pictures are attached! Thanks
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